Please help Santa with a Mossberg choice.

Please help Santa with a Mossberg choice.

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    Smile Please help Santa with a Mossberg choice.

    Last Saturday, we were invited to a fund raising party at one of the local Motorcycle Club (not 1%er) and they were selling raffle tickets for a Mossberg pump shotgun with pistol grip, short barrel and heat shield; I don't have a shotgun and this one seemed exactly what I need to fill that void in my collection, so I bought a ticket and joked to take good care of my gun because I was going to win it !

    Today, my wife told me:"Looks like you really liked that shotgun; I thought of buying you one for Christmas, but I know nothing about shotguns, why don't you get one"

    Now you guys know why I have been with that lady for 37 years

    I checked the usual places on the net and got overwhelmed with the different models and variations; I came to the conclusion that it might be a 590, but I don't know which one.

    Other questions, should I get the pistol grip (must be a handful to shoot) or the synthetic stock ???
    How about 20 ga. any good ???

    There is a big gun show here this week-end, I'll see what they have if I don't have a flight.

    Guys, please help me ! It is a Santa mission
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    I would stay away from the pistol grip...OMO... I would stick with the 12ga.... there's nothing wrong with a 20ga. there's just not as much of a selection of buck shot and slugs as the 12.
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    Personally, I don't care for pistol gripped shotguns, particularly for a potential HD shotgun; to me, the drawbacks (more difficult to aim, harder to control, slower to work slide) outweigh any benefits (questionably better maneuverability in tight quarters).

    I would recommend a Mossberg M590A1. It's the Mil-spec model of the classic 500, with a heavier receiver, ghost-ring sights, extended (9 shot, iirc) magazine, beefed up safety, and a bayonet lug...for really close encounters.

    I've been looking at one fo those vs a Benelli Nova tactical, and I think the Mossberg has finally won out in my mind.
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    I prefer the shorter 18" mossberg 500 (I actually have a Maverick 88 - same thing) over the extended-mag 890 or similar. The longer barrel and extra weight turn it from 'quick and manuverable' to 'nose-heavy and slow'.

    If you can't get it done with 6 rounds of 00 buck, you have the sidesaddle. If you can't get it done with that, you should have grabbed your AK-47.

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    Mossberg 500 or 590, 12 gauge. Accept nothing less.
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    Mossberg Mariner.

    Later, add ghost ring sight, side saddle carrier and you're golden.

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    Well, I know I'm going to excite some here, but I've of the opinion that a pistol grip only shotgun is about the most worthless setup one could have in 99.9% of applications. There is no advantage I can think of except storage, and a lot of disadvantages.

    And stick with a 12... ammo selection is so much better.

    The 590 is a solid shotgun.
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    pro's very light, easy to pack, easy to use gun

    con's heavy recoil, full power slugs are not fun

    500+pistol grip= pain , use only "tactical" loads

    If you get a 500 or a 590 consider the Blackhawk recoil reducing comp stock. The Spe-ops are great, but make the otherwise excellent controls on the mossbergs hard to reach. At the very least buy a Limbsaver pad for it. The 18" barrels are the best for home defense, giving you 6 rds in the tube and muzzle short enough to move with in the house.

    here is my old 500


    and my current 590 (along with my 12.5" Grizzly which can't be imported into the US)

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    Any 590 will be a great choice...Be sure to check out the Knoxx spec ops stock as one of your first add ons. Congrats.
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    Tactical-Life.com MOSSBERG’s 590A1 Models for General Public

    Look at these scroll down after you click.
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    I would get a 500 or 590 with a standard stock. If you really want a more compact shotgun for storage or BUGOUT use then get a top folding stock from ATI
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    590A1. That is what I intend to get as my next purchase. I was looking at a Mossberg 500 Bullpup EBS (Evil Black Shotgun) but at $500.00 I thought the price too high. I found a 590A1 for around $389.00
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    Thanks !!!!!!!!!!
    Very valuable info here.
    There seems to be a consensus here (amazing, isn't it ?) on not getting a "pistol grip". Looks "super-cool" but I'm sure they must be a ***** to shoot, especially for a 115 lbs female (my wife).
    Colin, you write that the "spec-ops" stock makes the control hard to reach; which controls ? Could you please elaborate ?

    You guys are great; you helped me a lot; I was looking at a pistol grip 20 ga. Now I am in the market for a 12 ga. with a Knoxx stock.

    Are these Knoxx recoil reducing stocks close to what they advertise ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfl View Post

    Are these Knoxx recoil reducing stocks close to what they advertise ?
    They do work as advertised, but I contend that is pointless anyway because with proper shooting technique recoil is a non issue, no matter the size of the shooter. 12ga recoil is way over rated. Its not enough to be fearful like all the folklore suggests.
    Last edited by SIXTO; December 20th, 2008 at 02:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    They do work as advertised, but I contend that is pointless anyway because with proper shooting technique recoil is a non issue anyway, no matter the size of the shooter. 12ga recoil is way over rated. Its not enough to be fearful like all the folklore suggests.
    Thanks Santa - no I mean Sixto - I like your avatar !

    I must confess I never shot a shotgun !
    Yep, I've shot a bunch of weapon up to and including the belt-fed .50 BMG, but no shot gun ! Nobody is perfect.

    As a civilian, the gun I have that has the most recoil is a 700BDL in .300 Win Mag. It is OK.
    How does a light 12 ga. compare ?
    I know ... the recoil is only in the mind of the shooter.

    What is your take on the pistol grip ?

    You are one of the members on this board I value the input the most !
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    The second rule: "Bring enough gun"

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