Double barrel for home defense?

Double barrel for home defense?

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    Double barrel for home defense?

    I have a Mossberg model 500 8 shot persuader pump shotgun that I bought for defense (urban and woods) about 9 years ago. I put a steel folding stock on it for ease of packing, but it adds a fair amount of weight. It is on the heavier side for my wife to enjoy...
    I have been thinking about getting an over/under double barrel to get into trap shooting but wanted some thoughts on this type of shotgun for defense. How many times do you need more than 2 12 guage shells in the home before grabbing for the pistol in the nightstand?
    (on a side note, has anybody shot a CZ over/under?)
    thanks for the input


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    Double barrels will work fine, but an over/under trap gun will have a longer than ideal barrel length. If you want a double barrel for home defense, I would go with a side-by-side coach gun. Here is a link to some Stoeger coach guns. I am looking at getting one myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadeye72 View Post
    Double barrels will work fine, but an over/under trap gun will have a longer than ideal barrel length. If you want a double barrel for home defense, I would go with a side-by-side coach gun. Here is a link to some Stoeger coach guns. I am looking at getting one myself.
    +1 but instead of the coach gun, 20" barrels no auto ejectors.. I'd suggest the Stoeger Bodyguard, 18" barrels w/auto ejectors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clipper1 View Post
    How many times do you need more than 2 12 guage shells in the home before grabbing for the pistol in the nightstand?
    How many times? The way I see it, the encounter we next have to deal with won't operate on a percentage basis. It'll be what it is. You'll either have enough rounds to get the job done ... or you won't. Me, I'd prefer more rounds than two. So, my choice is a Remington 870P pump, 5+1, 14" bbl.

    Keep in mind, as well, that the use of the shotgun isn't limited to expending the loads then going to the pistol. Traditional wisdom suggests the pistol is what helps you work your way back to your long gun, as it can be the more powerful option in a firefight.

    The shotgun is particularly devastating, up close. Keeping it humming along during an encounter can quite literally be the difference between terminating an attack and losing. I, myself, have not experienced a home invasion where I have defended via firearm. I hope I never do. But, I can't imagine a stronger defense than a well-stocked 12ga shotgun in such a situation, with a pistol to back it up.
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    I have a Stoeger coach gun that has done HD duty, the capacity is offset by the fact that it is a lot shorter than either my 500 or 870, and those have 20" and 18.5" barrels respectively. Really easy to handle indoors. I'm pretty sure stoeger also came out with a O/U with 20" a year or two ago, maybe called the outback or something.
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    I would chose my 870( or m1) before my pistol in a fight 20" barrel, 7 rounds,surefire 6p I can move around my house fine with it ready stop whatever fight we come across...JMO
    That double barrel would be fine unless you need 3 shots..Whats the odds right, but as a group we all carry, praying we never need to use the tools we have chosen.
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    If I were to choose a dbl barrel for home defense, it would be a side-by-side coach gun. The shorter barrel(s) give you better freedom of movement in the tight quarters of your home. Personally, I use a Rem 1100 or an 870 with a slug barrel. I like having more than 2 shots in case more than 2 invade my home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcher View Post
    I use a Rem 1100 or an 870 with a slug barrel.
    You planning on shooting slugs at invaders? I hope you dont have neighbors. Holy over penetration batman. I would not use the rifled barrel as it opens up the shot pattern too quickly.

    As far as the OP goes, I would love a SxS for HD. Unleashing 2 3" 12ga shells at once towards a BG would be great. But only if I could follow it up with my 1300 pump and my .357.

    You've already got a pump, realistically, I'd make it work for you instead of getting another gun. Have you thought about a top folder or maybe an AR- style 6 position?

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    I think you'll be hard pressed to find a shotgun that can pull trap and HD duty well.
    The Stoegers mentioned are not very expensive, or make what you already have work for you. Worry about a seperate trap gun, I really dont think you'll find one that can do both well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhinokrk View Post
    +1 but instead of the coach gun, 20" barrels no auto ejectors.. I'd suggest the Stoeger Bodyguard, 18" barrels w/auto ejectors.
    Could you possibly post a link to this shotgun? I've looked all over Stoeger's web site and can't find this model listed anywhere. I'd be interested in looking at it.

    A O/U is a poor choice for use in any area with obstacles if you should need a reload. I learned this the hard way after buying one years ago to use duck hunting. I traded it off after the first outing trying to reload inside a duck blind. The area necessary for the break open, ejection of shells is extreme compared to a SXS and any obstacles in front of you (couch, chair, bed, etc.) will necessitate an awkward movement of the receiver upwards to clear the barrels for reloading.

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    A friend of mine heard noises downstairs late at night. Sure enough - a BG had actually broken into his house. He was amazed, but pulled out his pump-action 12GA. He stood at the top of the stairs, with his position concealed. He cycled the action loudly, so that the BG would hear it. That was all it took, and the BG beat feet outta there.

    Let's face it - there's one distinct sound that every single BG on the planet knows - the cycling of a pump-action shotgun. As my friend clearly demonstrated, sometimes that's all it takes to resolve the situation. That sound commands instant respect.

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    While the racking of a pump is a great deterrent for someone that doesn't want a confrontation (and is surely better and more menacing than yelling, "I have auto-ejectors") You had better be prepared to use it at that point, and immediately, especially against someone that may be looking for and / or prepared for a fight. Don't forget, it gives away your position too.

    While potentially effective, not always the best idea. Sometimes I think I'd maybe rather have one chambered already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVIVIII View Post
    While the racking of a pump is a great deterrent for someone that doesn't want a confrontation (and is surely better and more menacing than yelling, "I have auto-ejectors") You had better be prepared to use it at that point, and immediately, especially against someone that may be looking for and / or prepared for a fight. Don't forget, it gives away your position too.

    While potentially effective, not always the best idea. Sometimes I think I'd maybe rather have one chambered already.

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    A short barreled pump shotgun (12 gauge) is a good self defense gun.The shorter the barrel (18.5) gives you better retention for the bad guys or who
    ever trying to come into your space.This is why I prefer a pistol to a shotgun
    for self defense firearm easier to maintain control of.

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    What do you plan on loading your shotguns with? Bird shot ? Buckshot ? Combination of both? Slugs? Worried about overpenatration ? Just curious
    as I have half dozen shotguns and I don't bother to keep the one I view as
    a self defense shot gun loaded as I prefer pistols for this tasks.

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