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    Have you seen one of these?

    I never have. is it legal? doesn't look all that usefull anyway. what do you all think?
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    I some states this is probably legally a pistol. Useful? Guess that depends on your purpose to own one.
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    Looks like an NFA'er to me. Usefulness?? How 'useful' are any SBR's for civilian use? But they sure are fun
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    As long as there's no stock, that may qualify as a "pistol" in some states.

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    Probably varies by State as the others have said. In WA they treat the SERBU super shorty as an AOW... I believe that would apply to the weapon you photo'd as well, provided it was never made with a stock.
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    Like the Kel-Tec PLR16 it is just a Pistol. See this link.
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    Looks like an AK pistol. If it had a butt stock it would be considered NFA, and you would need to pay the ATF 200 dollars I believe.
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    Guess all I need now is an IWB holster for it and I'll be ready to rock.
    I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.

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    Something tells me the 30 round mag is gonna print a little
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    As long as you don't put a Butstock or a Handgrip on the forearm it remains a pistol. A Butstock or Hangrip on forarm makes it NFA.

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    Holster? I doubt. Trench coat perhaps.

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    On the left most part of the picture you see what looks like a wire stock. I'm guessing an underfolder Krinkov. Yes, they're legal (SBRs with appropriate paperwork), and yes, they're high on my "want" list.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BAC View Post
    On the left most part of the picture you see what looks like a wire stock. I'm guessing an underfolder Krinkov. Yes, they're legal (SBRs with appropriate paperwork), and yes, they're high on my "want" list.


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    I think that's a sling swivel. If so, it's a pistol and legal in most states.
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    Seems neither fish nor fowl but I suppose it has a certain "cool" factor.

    I'd feel cheated to have to use one without its butt stock.

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    I may be wrong, but I believe it also is determined by what the serial number was originally assigned to. If it was built as a pistol and the serial number assigned as such, it's a pistol. If it was originally built as a rifle and you remove the stock and put a short barrel on it, that would change it's legal status.

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