January 22nd, 2009 04:36 AM
Get the AK...I'd go with 7.62x39 as it is the most common and is domestically produced (although the domestic stuff is much more $ than the foreign).
+1...The ones I've seen around and on the 'net are being built by Century...quality ranges from "okay" to "shoddy" from what I've heard.
Originally Posted by QKShooter
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January 22nd, 2009 03:41 PM
I'd buy an AK real soon as I don't trust this new administration.
January 22nd, 2009 05:18 PM
Only 8 rounds? Mine commie made SKS (Russian) holds 30 rounds. My SKS has lasted me for 40 years with little maintenance and no repairs. In addition to the 40 years that I have had it, I have no idea how long it was used by a dead North Vietnamese soldier before that.
Originally Posted by mr surveyor
January 22nd, 2009 07:17 PM
where in the world do you get the 8 round idea????
I have three 30 round mags and three 15 round mags, all loaded with jhp ammo, all the time. For home defense, and I'm "in the country", my shooting extents would not be over 75 yards outside, and only a few feet inside. I can slice the pie with the short CX4 all through the house, and the lower front rail light will light up a pretty good area if needed.
And, for what it's worth, there ain't much difference in poi/poa between 50 and 100 yards.
oh, and I have had my share of commie guns to play with. I just don't consider them comfortable in close quarters.
edit to add.... I see you mis-read "8 pound commie gun" as "8 round commie gun"
January 22nd, 2009 09:52 PM
May be off topic here, and this has nothing to do with destroying trees that are important for habitat, or our survival here on this earth. But if you want to shoot at trees (which are round and hard depending on the wood), just be ready for a bullet to skirt around the circumference of the tree just under the bark and come back at you. And at 25ft, you're not going to have much time to duck. With any spire point like the rifle rounds or calibers we are talking about here, it's a real possibility. I'm serious, and it can happen.
Originally Posted by Reicher
January 22nd, 2009 10:09 PM
I guess anything's possible but I've shot a jillion mesquite trees and also a few various other trees and have yet to see this phenomenon. What sort of trees are we talking about?
January 23rd, 2009 03:48 AM
I shot a tree with my bb gun about 40 yrs ago and it came back and got me. Never forgot that and have never shot a tree since.
January 23rd, 2009 06:01 PM
For what you describe, have you considered a pistol-caliber carbine? The High-Point is butt-ugly, but it's also reliable, affordable, and comes in 9mm or .40 so you probably already have SD ammo for it. In 9mm it would be very cheap to practice with, and effective out to 100+ yards. The worst thing about it is that it only uses 10-round magazines, but they're easily obtained and not very expensive.
Originally Posted by Bowdenknxvll
Worth considering, anyhow.
January 23rd, 2009 08:31 PM
Imported ammo supplies have been concerning me, too. The party in power may take action against imported ammo. I do not want to inject politics into this discussion; just pointing out a very real possible effect on future ammo costs. Anyone already sitting on a lifetime supply of Russian or other foreign ammo, of course, will have a different perspective on this than someone just now shopping for weapons and ammo.
Originally Posted by ellerblr
While I have some amount of ammo set aside, I don't yet own any "x39mm" or "x54mm" weapons, so I have none of that ammo. That is a consideration as I ponder whether to acquire a weapon chambered for such ammo. If my future-purchased ammo will be made in the USA, I don't see the AK/SKS ammo as being any friendlier to the wallet than .223/.308.
FWIW, I consider 12 gauge and .223 to be entirely adequate for home defense and other close-range defensive use, which is just as well, because my chief expects me to use the same weapons for SD/HD that I use on the job. Buckshot, slugs, and .223 55-grain JSP have been nailing felons for quite some time, so I don't feel handicapped living within those ammo guidelines.
January 23rd, 2009 10:58 PM
Since you're already a fan of handguns, I'll bet you have some that shoot .44 or .357 magnum. In which case, I'd suggest you get a "John Wayne Assault Rifle" - a lever action carbine. I was sort of stuck between the Beretta CX4 Storm and the Bushmaster Carbon 15 (since I've already got pistols in 9mm), which already reflected a prejudice against gas-operated actions in favor of the simpler blowback, and then thought, why do I need anything that complicated or specialized? A decent lever action holds 9 or ten rounds, works fast enough, and is fun to shoot. Not bad on white-tails, too.
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