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Hey fellas- I am looking to buy a defensive rifle for a few purposes (in this order):
1) home/mobile defense in a worst-case scenario
2) recreational shooting
3) deer/hog hunting
#3 rules out the .223 cartridge (too weak for ethical hunting, IMHO). So I have to go with the .308 (I have a ton of ammo for it anyway).
I have a Savage .308 that I like... for the first 20-25 rounds. After that, I am willing to hang in there but my shots start getting a bit wild. I want something I can shoot consistently for a couple hours, but is chambered for .308. I am thinking lower recoil would be a plus, so I can shoot more without forming bad habits.
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HK 91 or clone.
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Either of the above suggestions will work just fine.
I've got both guns and either will do the job you are asking of them. Lately I've been shooting the M1a more as I'm training a student how to establish and use Battle Sight Zero as well as his come-ups out to 400 yrds on threats.
I like em both, the M1a will require a breakdown and cleaning after 1000 rds or so, same with the 91 clones.
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How 'bout an AR10 with a chrome lined bull barrel? The target barrel will withstand the heat so you can shoot better groups at the range. A little much for HD but ...
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Any of the .308 battle rifles will do. All but the AR10 are HEAVY. Check here and see what you might like.
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FN FAL, great rifle, not bad recoil. Also learn to reload, it's cheaper, and you can taylor the load you want.
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+ 1 for the AR 10 variants. I have an M1a full size and a DPMS AP4 308 carbine. I shoot them both equally well to 100 yards (the longest I have regular access to). The recoil of the AP4 is a lot more gentle due to the buffer spring, the action spring of the M1a does not absorb the recoil despite the fact that it is a heavier rifle.
I don't have an HK91 but they do have the advantage of cheaper magazines .
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Saiga 308!! Easy to shoot, alittle on the heavy side. Ak platform, very tough.
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How about the Browning BLR lever-action? It's relatively handy and easy to maneuver, much lighter than the "battle rifle" format of most "standard" 308's. Of course, it's got limited capacity by comparison to some (ie, the AR10). Depends on what you're comfortable with. Occasionally, you can find used BLR's on GunBroker and elsewhere for $400-500 used, or the occasional gun shop find.
FAL or M1a variant
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Remington .223 may be undersized for deer, but I am comfortable using it for hog shooting. I do plan to use heavier, expanding bullets to make a greater damage on the hog (just as you would for personal defense).
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