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I have only owned Handguns, aside from a few bolt action hunting rifles and was interested in a semi auto rifle for SD and $%#@ hits the fan scenarios but I have no idea where to begin. I just want something that is not expensive $500 and under and very reliable and has a decent fire rate along with some range. Can anyone reccomend some affordable options? Plus, any online stores and resources would be appreciated since there are not many dealers around me. Thanks
Last edited by jwalker497; February 16th, 2009 at 10:52 PM. Reason: Edit - I also would like an effective caliber for SD, probably a given but just thought I would add.
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If you want to have the ability to hunt with it I would look at a Remington 742 or 7400 in 30-06.
You can still get 10 round mags for these(as of today).
There great rifles. Good luck on your search.
Oh yea, you can find them for under $400 and mags are 19.99.
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The Kel Tec su16 is not a bad choice for that price range. It is chambered in 5.56x45 and takes standard AR mags as well as a few internal parts. It also folds up into a compact little package.
I tend to see them for around the $400-$460 mark depending on the specific model.
I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but according to your specs; "Used for SD" (which means short range) and inexpensive, I keep a Hi Point 9mm carbine in the closet. $200.00 (approx), standard 9mm ammo, so it's cheaper to shoot and easy to find, 10 or 15 rnd mags available. Ugly as all get-out, but shoots every time. Made in USA and an unlimited lifetime warranty. Throw some good SD 147gr HP ammo into it and you have a pretty good compliment to your handguns. You can even get a cool looking ATI stock to put on it, as well as a laser from Hi Point.
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You might find a Ruger Mini-14 in .223 under $500, used.
The Kel-tec SU rifles, also in .223, seems to get decent reviews in that price range, used.
You should look at the Russian Saiga rifles... they have them in .223 and .308 (as well as other calibers), they're very reliable, and fairly inexpensive.
You can still find used Cetme's in this price range, if you do some looking.
Personally, with your requirements, I'd be looking at spending a little more, and getting an M1 Garand from the CMP (http://www.odcmp.org).
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I agree completely with cmidkiff that if you want real range, you need to go to an actual rifle caliber like a .223 or even a 22-250. I'd love a good AK clone or an AR type and there are plenty of Mil-Surp stuff around, but 400 yards is not self defense range, and since that was one of Jwalker's criteria, you could be in legal trouble if you claim self defense and the BG was 100 yards, or more, away (unless it's a nice deer ).
This is really a case where usage and intent should dictate. Personally, I have a 30.06 for Bambi and a .45 and the 9mm carbine for self defense.
I have only owned Handguns, aside from a few bolt action hunting rifles and was interested in a semi auto rifle for SD and $%#@ hits the fan scenarios but I have no idea where to begin. I just want something that is not expensive $500 and under and very reliable and has a decent fire rate along with some range.
Why has it gotten to post #10 to say that the obvious choice with your parameters is an AK 47. It is around $500. Easy to maintain. It's reliability is legendary. Hits hard out to 200 yards. No other weapon in this price range even comes close to the power and reliability of an AK.
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I just posted on the Beretta CX4. They will run just a bit higher in initial cost but running in 9MM you can shoot all day and still afford the ammo. I use the same clip as my Beretta 92FS interchangably and it's a fun day at the range when I take them both together
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I say go for an SKS and spend the rest on ammo, bells and whistles!
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It is hard to find a decent AK for $500 anymore, and you still need magazines and ammo. Get an SKS. They are way overpriced, heavy, and don't look as cool as an AK. However, the SKS is just as reliable as an AK but generally more accurate, and can quickly be reloaded using stripper clips. $500 will get you a pretty decent one and 500 or so rounds of ammunition with stripper clips and maybe even a Tapco synthetic stock to cut down on the weight.
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