How much is too much?
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February 22nd, 2009 03:52 PM
Well this is a tough question. If you are out and need it you will pay to have it. What ever the cost.
If I have enough I will not pay and will hoard reloading components and roll my owne for my every day shooting.
I recently found a rifle range that would let me pick up 30-06 brass for a nickel per round ($50 per 1000) Each range trip I would pick up 200 extra 30-06 cases and load them before the next trip. Soon I had 1000 rds of 30-06 at a greatly reduce price.
Bullets 5 cents
Brass 5 cents
Powder 7 cents
Primer 3 cents
20 cents per round
1000 rounds 30-06 for 200USD
Powder and primers reflect replacement costs, since I will run out of them before I run out of the other components, actual cost is closer to 15 cents per round.
So establish a base of ready to use ammo and then start shooting what ever you can scrounge the cheapest.
Cheapest handgun to load is 38 special with 2.7grs bullseye and home cast 148gr wadcutters. The brass will last forever.
Cheapest 30 cal rifle is the 30-30, brass is every where.
February 22nd, 2009 05:03 PM
i have been stocking up for years but are still buying ammo
February 22nd, 2009 11:14 PM
Going with the gasoline analogy, If I told you 6 months ago that you would be paying $1.66 for gas you would put me in a home. Gas was overinflated as I think ammo is overinflated right now. An ammo bubble perhaps?
I don't buy the various reasons for ammo inflation other than panic buying. The cost of raw materials is down significantly, the military is in a different supply chain and I suspect they burn up way more rounds in training than the current state of the two wars.
I agree a black market will occur if ammo is under political attack, and that would include currently law abiding citizens. It is the "When guns are outlawed I will be an outlaw" mentality.
The Second Amendment ...... Because crime SHOULD be a hazardous occupation.
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February 23rd, 2009 07:27 PM
February 23rd, 2009 08:59 PM
If I need it, I will pay! What is the price for your life?
(But I don't foresee a need in the near future - the stock is well kept)
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February 23rd, 2009 09:22 PM
I have used some up to 7 times. I try to chunck it after 5. Just inspect it, after you clean it.
Originally Posted by tjm
Plus, I enjoy reloading as a hobby to it's self.
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February 23rd, 2009 09:56 PM
I won't pay those prices. I have several thousand rounds of surplus military fodder dedicated for long term and components on hand for thousands more hand loads.
Regarding case life. I'm still loading .38 Special and .45 ACP cases I was using 30 years ago. No telling how many trips through the press they've seen.
Most times I ever loaded high-powered rifle cases was a batch of .30-06 Lake City '67 with which I shot high power competition for a couple of seasons. I kept up with the number of times they were reloaded as a test to satisfy my curiosity. After sixteen times through my M1 I chucked them. None in the batch ever cracked. All were trimmed at least once. The head stamp was partially obliterated or it was just gone on some, and the case rims were indescribably chewed and ugly but they still extracted fine.