Yes. Can you find a factory shotgun load that can?
Originally Posted by SleepingZ
Non sequitur. You can't fire the shotgun while cycling it any more than you can fire the AR while cycling it.
3---To cycle an AR requires that you move one of your hands from how you are holding the weapon, the pump does not.
Are you willing to bet your neighbor's life on that? I know there are several good quality personal defensive loads for .223 and 5.56 that are poor performers against glass - that particular caliber is routinely poor against glass. Serviceable, but definitely not ideal. How many shotgun loads to you know of that are good performers against people but poor performers against glass?
4---hitting glass with a 12ga loaded with non slugs, maybe 50-70 yards travel, the 223 what do you think, several hundred yards??
I've never had a problem with my magazines falling out, since they stay seated in the weapon when on house-duty. Any "bump" capable of removing a fully-seated magazine would arguably do significant damage to the weapon itself, and I'm willing to bet that a shotgun would suffer from that type of blow as well.
7---Simple, the 12ga does not have a separate magazine that could fall you if it got bumped or not put in properly, also have heard some magazines don't feed as well as others, don't remember hearing that on 12ga's
50% of your shots from the hip are misses. You realize that, right? Why would I shoot from the hip if I can shoot from the shoulder?
8--I can hit moving objects i.e. clay pigeons about 50% of the time shooting from the hip (pointing) can you do that with an AR??
To be clear, I'm not arguing against the shotgun as a home defense tool. What I am arguing against is the poor reasoning behind using a particular tool for this particular role. A shotgun is an outstanding weapon, and has a century of use to prove it. A rifle is an outstanding weapon, and has a century of use to prove it; the particular rifle in question excels in close-in combat. The AR15 is not the delicate rifle it's made out to be, nor is the shotgun the be-all, end-all it's made out to be. They are different tools that bring different capabilities to the fight.
Preference for one tool does not invalidate another tool.