February 24th, 2009 09:21 PM
Home Defense 12 gauge or AR 15?
For the purpose of defending your home from
intruders in the night..what would you choose
12 gauge pump or AR 15?
I know there are pros and cons with both. Since
I am close to other houses I would probably have
to go with the shotgun..now if I was out in the
country maybe the AR 15.
What say you?
February 24th, 2009 09:25 PM
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February 24th, 2009 09:27 PM
Niether, I use a lever action rifle.
February 24th, 2009 09:29 PM
Pump!! Close neighbors and (God willing) will have a baby in the next room in August....
Originally Posted by atctimmy
February 24th, 2009 09:29 PM
February 24th, 2009 09:31 PM
Pump in hand, .45 on hip and rifle close enough for if I run out of reloads.
February 24th, 2009 09:37 PM
+1 for the shotgun, but ditch the 28" barrel.
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February 24th, 2009 09:39 PM
I added this to my small arsenal this year:).
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February 24th, 2009 09:39 PM
12ga, good for close combat home defense. AR15 with we have a down fall of the US and need to SD from long distances
ront. I am lloking to get the same shotgun, the Mossberg 500
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February 24th, 2009 09:40 PM
My vote's for the search feature.
This topic's come up at least a few times in the last year, as well as issues of penetration between various rounds.
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February 24th, 2009 09:44 PM
Have you checked out the box o' truth?
They found that pretty much everything will make it through a wall if you miss. Even a .22LR pistol will punch through 3 pieces of drywall.
A bunch of their tests are here:
The Box O' Truth - The Box O' Truth
This one in particular should help you decide your comfort level.
It is a great test where they built four walls (8 pieces of sheet rock) and had them distant from each other to simulate the distance between walls of a room/hallway/etc.
5.56 penetrated 4 walls
.30 carbine penetrated 4 walls
Reduced recoil 00 buck penetrated 4 walls
00 buck penetrated 4 walls
#8 Dove penetrated wall 1 and bounced off 2
A lot of folks recommend #4 buck, and the guys at BOT found that it penetrated 6 sheets (roughly ~3 walls) during their standard test (where the sheets are very close to each other). Link here: The Box O' Truth #3 - The Shotgun Meets the Box O' Truth - Page 1
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February 24th, 2009 10:10 PM
I guess I'll be different. AR-15 for me. It does everything a shotgun does except one thing...it holds a lot more ammo. It has less recoil and puts the threat down just as fast. It's my choice.
The key to picking a home defense weapon isn't about the weapon itself. It's what you train with and are most comfortable with. Having the 'best' weapon you don't know how to use isn't going to help you much when the chips are on the table. Pick one and train with it.
February 24th, 2009 10:21 PM
12 Guage for in home defense. The AR is for picking em off at the front gate before they even get close.
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February 24th, 2009 10:31 PM
Honestly? Whatever works better for you, and whatever you're more comfortable with.
With that said, I'd say a 12 GA pump is the best choice. Less to go wrong, and more up-close impact, as well as more versatility (works better if you have to move into a townhome or apartment, for example).
And it would appear that in recent months, there's been a shift in the penetration issue. A rifle round won't penetrate as much as has been thought, but *inside* a home I think that a concern is still certainly justifiable (of course, any decent round, buckshot, rifle round, or handgun round, is going to go through drywall).
Well okay, maybe not, given the testing provided above. So I guess we just go back to what you're more comfortable with, and can handle better under stress. Also consider what a partner can handle, just in case you go down and they need to pick up your weapon, or their weapon malfunctions, etc
February 24th, 2009 10:33 PM
Nothing looks worse to an intruder than a nickle coach gun...a Stoeger (reworked) Nickle Coach Gun Supreme...two big barrels of 12 ga with 00 buck.
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