March 5th, 2009 11:58 AM
Good stuff!! When will Obama put watermelons on the endangered species list and prohibit the "hunting"of them!!!!
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March 5th, 2009 12:42 PM
Sorry, but can't agree with that theory.
Originally Posted by usmc3169
Not trying to imply these were the rounds used in the video, only showing them as a representative sample. Velocity difference is only 15 fps so it's obvious there's more at play than velocity and since both bullets are the same diameter that can only leave bullet weight and bullet design. Even though the velocities are virtually the same, the extra 27 grains of bullet weight for the 30-30 does give it an additional 362 ft. lbs. of energy but my informal shooting at some rotten grapefruits with .223 FMJ and V-Max bullets of the same weight does indeed show that bullet design can have a dramatic effect. An interesting test would be to use some 7.62X39 FMJ on a watermelon and then something like the Federal Power-Shok 7.62X39 on the same type of target to see the difference.
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March 5th, 2009 01:05 PM
Originally Posted by Bark'n
Originally Posted by farronwolf
Originally Posted by rodc13
+1 to you all guys - good clarification on the purpose of the video.
Originally Posted by cvhoss
It really doesn't matter what the factors are that make the difference, the point he was making was that there is a difference, a big difference.
So what was he supposed to use to illustrate the differences in bullets to the average guy? I think the watermelons were a brilliant choice for most eople. Most people don't have a clue what ballistic gel is, what it represents or anything else. But just about everybody knows what a watermelon is and it is spectacular when shot with a high energy round.
People got to see what a AK round would do, and how it compared to hunting rounds. I think he erased any doubt in anyone's mind that the AK would 'blow a deer apart' as claimed in the article he referenced at the beginning of the video.
They also got to see the difference in a pistol round and any rifle round.
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March 5th, 2009 01:33 PM
I think it was a good example that guns regardless how menacing they look is not the danger.
And by comparing it to very day hunting rifles, he wanted to show those watching the video that an AK is just another rifle, and in fact lesser than the normal hunting rifle they grew up around.
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March 5th, 2009 01:45 PM
The video was OBVIOUSLY not designed for the informed shooter. They were all aware of 98% of what they saw prior to viewing it. The video was aimed at the voting public with roughly zero comprehension of which end of the bullet leaves and which end stays in the weapon. To them the most graphic demonstration works the best. And I too agree that if you aren't aware who fought for your rights when you were too young to do it for yourself you need to keep your opinions in that area to yourself.
March 5th, 2009 01:46 PM
I stopped killing watermelons a long time ago.......they just don't put up much of a challenge......they just sit there.
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March 5th, 2009 06:29 PM
Just remember: When watermelons are outlawed . . .
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