AR15 Lower, what brand?

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    AR15 Lower, what brand?

    Consider the usual fools in Washington are speaking of "assault weapons band" I think it's sensible to get my own (No wander the local gun store called Obama the BEST gun salesman!)... I like the fact that the AR15 is so flexable in adapting many calibers, so if I were to get my first "evil assault rifle" I would go with the A15 but I am looking for a lower... what brand is the BEST for value for money (reliability, quality per dollar).

    If I were to get a whole gun, with just one caliber it would be the CZ Vz58, but since I can get an A15 lower, I rather just get that and look for a good upper (thinking about that 5.7mm one that uses the FN90 mag)
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    I think the best deal right now as far as quality for the dollar is probably the CY6 lower from slr15.com - they do their own machining and put a lot of experience and effort into making the best product they can. They are listed on the website at $187 and you're probably be paying at least $150 for a lower these days anyhow, so for the percentage of extra money I think it probably would be worth it. I don't have one.

    When I got my lowers I just got what I could get for $100 each (this was over a year ago) because many of them are pretty much the same. If you care what the rollmark looks like then you're going to have a much easier time choosing a lower. In general though, the Rock River, Stag, CMT, Doublestar, Noveske, Anvil Arms, etc..... are all basically the same thing. The exceptions are when you get into billet lowers or stuff made by the higher end manufacturers or stuff with a super famous name.

    Just my two cents,

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    Just stay away from Hesse or Vulcan. Otherwise, you are going to have a bad day.
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    Regarding the 5.7 upper, a fellow I know got one recently and had numerous reliability problems. I would wait a bit til they get the bugs worked out.
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    I think I know what Shadowsbane meant to say - stay away from Hesse and Vulcan or you will have a bad day.

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    From what I hear, Essential Arms builds a good lower for a nice price. They also sell reasonably priced kits with everything but the barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aus71383 View Post
    I think I know what Shadowsbane meant to say - stay away from Hesse and Vulcan or you will have a bad day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CR2008 View Post
    I am looking for a lower... what brand is the BEST for value for money (reliability, quality per dollar).
    I'm relatively new to the world of ARs, but I've been doing quite a bit of research, so I'll pass along what I've been told so far. I'll assume you're talking about a stripped lower, with no fire control group, handgrip, or receiver extension.

    There are three snakes to watch out for when it comes to stripped lowers:

    1. Poor materials. You want something made out of good-quality metal. I've actually heard of plastic lowers, but I wouldn't trust one.

    2. Poor craftsmanship. Forged or milled is supposedly better than cast. You want an evenly-applied, durable finish.

    3. Out-of-spec machining. You want the magwell to be the right size (for instance), and all the pin-holes to be the proper size and in the right places.

    If I were to get a whole gun, with just one caliber it would be the CZ Vz58, but since I can get an A15 lower, I rather just get that and look for a good upper (thinking about that 5.7mm one that uses the FN90 mag)
    It seems that the way to get the most reliability out of the AR platform is to stick to proven ground. Many of the non-5.56 calibers are notoriously unreliable in ARs, especially in "Franken-guns" (those assembled with parts from many different manufacturers). If you're just looking for something to play around with, though, and not something to bet your life on in a defensive scenario, this may not matter to you.

    Another thing to consider is that we have no idea what form a renewed AWB will take. I get the impression that a lot of folks are assuming that it'll be just like the 94-04 ban, and that as long as they have plenty of lowers and mags beforehand, they'll be able to build all the ARs they want. That may not be a safe assumption.

    Good luck with your research and purchasing.

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