This is a discussion on Thoughts on the Pardner Pump Protector 12 Gauge within the Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I have a lot of 870 experience, through my job, but bought a Pardner for HD. I like it a lot. I don't hunt or ...
I have a lot of 870 experience, through my job, but bought a Pardner for HD. I like it a lot. I don't hunt or trap-shoot; it's strictly HD. Take it out once every three months and fire 25 rounds. Never a problem. solid and dependable for $179 brand new!
It is a buyer beware would and something made in China always raises a eyebrow for me. But read as many reviews as you can, ask questions and opinions like you have done here and then make the best informed decision you can.
Dick's Sporting Goods had the Maverick 88 and the H&R Pardner Pump Protector both with 18.5inch barrels on sale on Black Friday for $159. I was able to find a store that had one left and had them hold it for me. There was a gentleman that wanted to buy the Pardner Pump that I spoke to that said that he had a 870 Express and the PP and was looking for another PP to have as a spare as in his opinion the PP was just as good as his 870 Express but 1/2 the price. Of course I bought the last one at the Dick's I went too !!! Also for the person that said it felt cheap and light, LOL !!! You never really held the PP as it is about a pound heavier than the Maverick 88. I weighed my PP and on my scale it weighed in at 127 ounces or just under 8 pounds. God Bless
My old dad used to tell me that you get what you pay for. If I'm going to use something to protect the lives of myself and family, I will pay a premium. Just my opinion.
LOL !!! Yup I have heard the same thing, yet these same people purchase some poorly made american cars instead of buying Volvos. FYI I while researching about the H&R Pardner Pump Protector, found out that it is own by the same organization that owns Remington, etc. Also from a post a I read on some forum, one of the posters father works for a company as a metallurgist and actually purchased a Remington 870 Express and a H&R Pardner Pump and broke both down to examine the metals of both and found that the metal in the PP was just a good in some parts better than on the 870 Express. Now how true that is I do not know. God Bless
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I recently bought a pardner pump for sporting clays. With the exception of choking on federal bulk ammo, it's performed pretty much flawlessly.
Last time I was out at the range, some fellow asked it I'd had problems with bulk ammo. I said yep, and mentioned that I just pay a little more for the ammo and it works fine. He pointed out that in shtf situations you can't always pick and choose your ammo. He said he had the same model and took it to a gunsmith, had the chamber polished, and since then it's been great. No problems at all.
My opinion: for $159-179... It's a fantastic buy for a solid gun that pretty much works reliably with no problems.
It is damn heavy... But once you get used to it, it's hardly noticeable, and the additional weight helps with recoil. This past weekend I took two female friends out for their first time shooting a shotgun. We used the PP and Winchester low recoil low noise ammo and they barely felt any recoil at all. We're talking one girl was maybe 110-120 lbs soaking wet and it didn't bother her at all.
Then where do you draw the line? Is the Maverick better than the Pardner? Mossberg better than the Maverick? 870 better than the Mossberg? Benelli better than the 870?
Using your same logic for cars unless we ALL drive a Bugatti we are putting our lives in danger driving ANYTHING cheaper.
I just picked up a slightly used Pardner Pump for a HD gun. It feels anything but cheap. It's very solid and handles great and as mentioned takes any 870 accessory.
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I bought a Pardner Pump Protector several months ago from Walmart for USD $179. The salesman showed me in his product listing that the gun was sourced by Walmart from Remington. The documentation which came with the PP makes numerous references to Remington supplies and accessories. On the side of the gun it says "Made in China."
When I took it down for a thorough cleaning, I did not see anything about it that is cheap, frail, or light. I'm convinced that it is a tremendous value, and a dependable weapon for HD. Lower price does not always mean lower quality; and certainly not with this shotgun. It appears that most people who own both the 870 and the Pardner Pump have a similar view.
Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
I just looked at one at Dicks. They had several on display. $199 is the regular price. I am waiting to get it on sale somewhere. It looks solidly built and I like that it is a little weighty.
I looked up some reviews on this online, it it appears to be a good gun for the money.
- I have a handgun for HD, but I like the idea of having a shotgun availble. So I may get one of these.
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On second thought if you consider the problems with stress and double feed get a 12 gauge SXS Coach gun. For HD if you need more than 2 shots you are screwed anyway.
You can't go wrong with Mossberg, Winchester, or Remington, IMHO. If money is the issue the Mossberg can be had a Wally World for $259. Any of these models can be found used for about what you would pay for the made in China Pardner. Good luck!
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I would grab it and go. It has everything I would look for in a basic HD shotty... 18.5 inch barrel, its heavy, its ugly, and it works.
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