June 3rd, 2009 02:28 AM
Good stuff! I appreciate the help.
June 3rd, 2009 02:44 AM
MAX100 I've seen you around the basement in SGW.
I am here, there and anywhere shotguns are discussed.
If you go with a receiver side saddle you will need a short LE forend. The Vang oversize safeties are nice because they are very fast to disengage. Nordic makes a nice mag tube clamp. You can attach a rail for mounting a flashlight & there is place for a sling stud.
Rail mounted flashlights are nice because they are compact & fast and easy to remove.
June 3rd, 2009 03:42 AM
My "basic" for a Home Defense/Duty Use Shotgun is:
Light with Pressure Pad Activation Switch
I like my extra ammo off the gun and on my Belt. I also like Ghost Ring Tritium Sights, but that's me.
I haven't added a sling, yet, but I most likely will for the home defense shotgun. The most important piece of equipment, IMHO, is the Light. It makes identifying your target easier, and in my mind that's the first rule.
KNOW YOUR TARGET!
June 3rd, 2009 10:13 AM
An 18" barrel first, and maybe a mag ext. if it makes you feel better. Other than that, its nothing but icing.
June 3rd, 2009 01:34 PM
Bayonet, 'nuff said.
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June 3rd, 2009 01:46 PM
Originally Posted by SIXTO
That's about it,
A short barrel is about all that you need. If you are going to take a shotgun class I would get a sling, if you are not going to take a class then don't worry about the sling.
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June 3rd, 2009 04:48 PM
A short barrel is an advantage indoors. A high-quality magazine extension is not a bad idea, and while you are at it, make sure the magazine spring and follower are of high quality, too. Not much point in adding something that gives you more rounds, if those rounds won't feed.
A light is a mixed blessing, and not as vital as some make it out to be. It depends on how much ambient light you will typically have. Ghost-ring sights are another mixed blessing. At home defense distance, a bead sight is adequate, and it may well be the fastest to use. (We all have different eyesight; what works for me may work otherwise for you.) A bigger/brighter/tritium bead may be a very good idea.
I like the Vang-comp big-head safety.
One of my duty/HD/SD shotguns is a very plain-jane parkerized 870P. I added a Vang-comp barrel to get smaller buckshot patterns at distance, when patrolling the streets, and the barrel wears a plain bead. I added the Vang big-head safety button, too. No magazine extension.
My other 870 is a custom from Scattergun Technologies. Ghost ring front sight, tritium front sight, Vang-comped barrel + porting, threaded for choke tubes/breacher attachment, big-head safety, mag extension, sling mounts, custom black finish, the works. I bought it to use as a designated slug gun for policin', not really for HD. It could certainly do double duty for HD, of course.
Know which shotgun I actually like the best? The basic, bead-sight, parkerized 870P, of course. Basic is good.
June 3rd, 2009 05:01 PM
1. Pistol grip folding stock
3. 00 Buck
June 8th, 2009 09:13 AM
Agreed I also like the idea of a Sidesaddle carrier...cheap and relatively easy to install...and allows you to keep other types of ammo on board if need be...like slugs or what not.
Originally Posted by SIXTO
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June 10th, 2009 09:58 AM
Hey MAX....How's that Nordic clamp working. Thought about swapping the OEM for that causes it's "beefier". Thanks!
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June 11th, 2009 01:45 AM
My home shotgun I like to have the 18 inch barrel, a tube extension, and sling. Thats it. No need for extra fancy stuff. Anything else you're just adding extra weight that you don't need. I like to have a synthetic stock as well.
Something interesting you may want to look into. Bean bag rounds and the rubber ball rounds.
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June 11th, 2009 02:15 AM
Like you, ATM, all I have is a hunting shotgun (I use as back-up). I took the stick I used to limit the capacity for hunting out. A shotshell is not in the chamber, but I've got 5 XX buck in the mag tube.
A home SD / riot shotgun has been one of my top three "next" buys.
For HD, I would go with a pump, I think an 18.5 ish barrel, mag extender (something to allow 8 or so shells, but not longer than the barrel). If I were to get a sling I would get one that would hold a few shells. I've seen a few HD shotguns, and I think having an attached light is the way to go. You can always choose not to use the light, but most of the time it would help to aim, identify, and even blind BG.
I think the only thing I would consider adding, that is not a must have, would be a shotshell holder.
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June 11th, 2009 09:32 AM
Less lethal is for fun and law enforcement apps. If I have to resort to a gun it needs to be a deadly force response in order to justify the gun. LTL rounds are not a proper response for a lethal confrontation, IMO.
Originally Posted by broknindarkagain
June 11th, 2009 09:46 AM
You don't "need" a bunch of stuff hanging off the gun. Good light, maybe a better sight, ammo carrier are nice, but you don't "need" them. If you plan on holing up in a safe room and covering the door from a position of concealment or cover, you might not even need to change out the barrel. Some extended magazine tubes need a little gunsmithing done to work, depends on the model.
Some links to good 870 add-ons:
BARREL, 18", IC BEAD SIGHT, PARKERIZED at Brownells
BARREL, 18", POLICE W/RIFLE SIGHTS, PARKERIZED, IMP CYL at Brownells
SHOTGUN FOLLOWERS at Brownells
SHOTGUN MAGAZINE EXTENSION at Brownells
"SPEEDFEED" STOCK at Brownells
RECEIVER MOUNT SHOTSHELL HOLDER at Brownells
SHOTSHELL HOLDER at Brownells
MAGAZINE SPRING PERFORMANCE PACKAGE at Brownells
REMINGTON TRITIUM NIGHT SIGHTS at Brownells
TRITIUM SHOTGUN SIGHT at Brownells
TACTICAL SHOTGUN SIGHTS at Brownells
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