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This is a discussion on S&W M&P-15 Exploded within the Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by tangoseal Does colt stand behind what they say? Just making sure cause im gonna get a 6920 tomorrow afternoon. They stand behind ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangoseal View Post
    Does colt stand behind what they say? Just making sure cause im gonna get a 6920 tomorrow afternoon.
    They stand behind their product. Colt sets the bar right now as they are the only current AR-15 manufacturer with full access to the TDP that also sells an equivalent civilian product in the 6920 and 6921; I don't know if they have a safe-semi only A2 or A4 available to civilians, as I never looked. Colt distinguishes between which of their products are chambered in .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO, which should say something. Whatever folks might think about the company, they know how to make a fighting rifle, and distinguish between which rifles are for fighting and which aren't.


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    Like I have said, I don't know anything much about rifles or the ammunition for them, but am is it true that a rifle chambered for 5.56 can safely use .223? But not the other way around? And is this due to the higher pressure 5.56?
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    Correct. There's a current thread on .223 Remington vs 5.56 NATO on this very subforum that's worth a read.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BAC View Post
    Correct. There's a current thread on .223 Remington vs 5.56 NATO on this very subforum that's worth a read.


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    ah...thank you very much, that was helpful
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    You can still seperate the upper from the lower by pulling both takedown pins which will allow the receiver to pull forward instead of tilting up,even if the BCG is partially in the buffer tube,but it looks like the bolt is fully closed in the pics,Is the upper receiver at the ejection port bent out or just the dust cover
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    You can still seperate the upper from the lower by pulling both takedown pins which will allow the receiver to pull forward instead of tilting up,even if the BCG is partially in the buffer tube,but it looks like the bolt is fully closed in the pics,Is the upper receiver at the ejection port bent out or just the dust cover
    I don't think i want to take the rifle apart. I don't want S&W to think i messed with it before sending it in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BAC View Post
    Point of interest, does anyone know if RRA marks their rifles .223, 5.56, or Wylde?
    "223/5.56 NATO Chamber" is what the literature says, which you mentioned is meaningless. 223 Wylde available on some models.

    Rock River Arms: RRA LAR-15 .223 Rifles

    Where should I look on my RRA?

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    Generally on the left side of the lower receiver, and on the barrel (might be hidden under handguards).

    It's true that it's not very useful information, but that doesn't do much to diminish my curiosity. I'd be surprised (pleasantly) if they marked their rifles as having a Wylde chamber. I'll have to bug the folks with the stainless Noveske rifles to see what their rifles say.


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    Calling the shop I ordered the rifle from (lanworldinc.com).
    Told me she'd call me back after she talked to her rep.

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    Lady @ lanworld talked to her rep. The rep said S&W will honor their lifetime warranty.

    I just need to call them now....
    Hope it all falls into place.

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    That sounds like pretty good news. Good luck.

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    I went through this process with S&W. My gun looked about the same as your weapon when it had a catastrophic failure. It took 4 months to resolve the issue and only got resolved because the VP. of Marketing got involved.

    Contact S&W customer service at 1-800-331-0852 and tell them the weapon failed and request a UPS shipping label to return the weapon. It will be inspected and X-rayed at the MET lab. That process should not take any longer than 2 weeks, no matter how busy they claim to be. Two things will happen next; either they will send you a new weapon or after the report comes back the finger pointing will begin. They will probably tell you it's an ammo related failure blah, blah, blah and offer to sell you a new gun at a discount of around $900. If you ask for a supervisor and get Kate Fredette (kfredette@smith-wesson.com), prepare for war! She won't return your phone calls or emails in a timely manner. Document everything you do with her. I only communicated with her via email after talking to her on the phone twice.
    She will try to wear you down with time and drag this process out, you have to stay after them and not give up.

    At the same time I would also do the following:
    Contact Remington Ammunition plant at 501-676-3161 and ask for Steve Buckingham. Tell him you had a catastrophic weapon failure and you want them to test the remaining ammo that was in the weapon. He will probably ask you for the lot number on the ammo box etc... It's great you have pictures- send those along with the ammo when they send you a letter with the shipping label. They will also want the incident round, which probably is jammed in the weapon. Request S&W to remove the incident round from the weapon and ship it directly to Remington. Make sure you request everything in email so you have documentation.

    Good Luck, I hope you get this resolved quickly, I'm sure it will go smoother for you since you know how the game will be played ahead of time.

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    Ditto:
    Document all correspondence.
    Date all correspondence.
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    Print all E-mail that you send even if it never gets responded to.

    Write down the Date & Exact Time of all phone calls and ask for the full name of every person that you speak to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    The entire M&P Series are designated either Caliber: 5.56 mm NATO / .223 or just 5.56 mm NATO

    SKU: 811000
    Model: M&P15
    Caliber: 5.56 mm NATO / .223
    Action: Gas Operated Semi Automatic
    Capacity: 30 Rounds, 5.56 mm or .223
    Overall Length: 35" Extended / 32" Compacted
    Stock: 6-Position Telescopic
    Forend: Thermo-Set M4 Handguard
    Sight Length: 14.75"
    Barrel Length: 16"
    Barrel Twist: 1 in 9"
    Weight (No Mag): 6.74 lbs.
    Trigger Pull: 7 lbs. (approx.)
    Upper/Lower Material: 7075 T6 Aluminum
    Barrel Material: 4140 Steel
    Chromed Components: Barrel Bore, Gas Key, Bolt Carrier
    Receiver and Barrel Finish: Hard Coat Black Anodized
    Front Sight: Adjustable Post
    Rear Sight: Adjustable Dual Aperature
    QK, I hate to rain on your parade, but you are wrong. S&W has two other calibers in their M&P15 series. One is a .223.

    Model M&P15I

    SKU: 811010
    Model: M&P15
    Caliber: .223
    Capacity: 10 Rounds
    Action: Semi-Auto
    Barrel Length: 17"
    Barrel Twist: 1 in 9"
    Front Sight: M4 Post Adjustable
    Overall Length: 36"
    Stock: A2 Fixed
    Weight: 7 lbs.
    Barrel Material: 4140 Steel
    Receiver Material: 7075 T6 Aluminum
    Finish: Hard Coat Black Anodized
    Chromed Comp: Barrel Bore, Gas Key, Bolt Carrier and Chamber
    Product: Model M&P15I

    The other is 5.45X39mm (AK-74 round).

    Model M&P15R Rifle

    SKU: 811011
    Model: M&P15
    Caliber: 5.45 x 39mm
    Capacity: 30 Rounds
    Action: Semi-Auto
    Barrel Length: 16"
    Barrel Twist: 1 in 8"
    Front Sight: M4 Post
    Overall Length: 35" Extended, 32" Collapsed
    Stock: 6-Position Collapsible
    Weight: 6.5 lbs.
    Barrel Material: 4140 Steel
    Receiver Material: 7075 T6 Aluminum
    Finish: Hard Coat Black Anodized
    Chromed Comp: Barrel Bore, Gas Key, Bolt Carrier and Chamber
    Product: Model M&P15R Rifle
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    Quote Originally Posted by lee275 View Post
    Man, I shot a crapload of rounds in the army. I never, ever seen this happen. Even the Marine old timer @ the range was like WTHeck! When he inspected the weapon he was shocked as hell to see it was a S&W firing Remington ammo.
    I hate to say this but maybe cheap old wolf ammo wouldn't have done this. You know nothing is made in America anymore. The ammo you used was probably made in Beijing re branded as Remington lol... just messing with you.

    I sincerely wish you the best. Tomorrow I am going to do my first shot ever on my Virgin Colt AR. I pray this doesn't happen to me.

    Im going to start by breaking it in with .223 then once broken I will use 5.56 and only 5.56.
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