Home defense shotgun advice
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July 1st, 2009 06:37 AM
I am a Remington 870 fan....cheap and reliable. Slap an 18 inch barrel and you're good to go
July 1st, 2009 08:26 AM
You didn't say if you were using a pistol grip - so I'm assuming you have a full butt stock. My preference would be for he 20" with iron sights. Remington iron sights bead up very quickly when you pull it to your shoulder.
Originally Posted by zacii
At 25 feet I doubt you'd see much difference in accuracy between the two, at 50 yards the iron sights should hold a better and more consistent group. *Make sure you're only shooting foster style slugs out of that smoothbore. The newer sabot slugs are made for a fully rifled barrel.
July 1st, 2009 09:01 AM
What does everyone think about the MOSSBERG PERSUADER SHOTGUN.
July 1st, 2009 10:29 AM
The persuader is basically the same as a 500 or 590 with some added options/features. The 500 has been a proven platform, very reliable and easy to maintain. Same can be said for the Rem. 870. Basically a Chevy/Ford comparison - can't go wrong with either. But I will admit I am biased towards the 870.
Originally Posted by Tombstone55
July 1st, 2009 11:09 AM
As long as it has a full stock and not just a pistol grip I'd say go for it. The persuader is a heavy hitter and a very, very good HD shotgun.
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July 1st, 2009 12:32 PM
Verily, verily it is an excellent choice!
Originally Posted by atctimmy
Don't they usually come in a kit, with both the full stock and 'just a pistol grip'?
Best "with a full stock" + or - the pistol grip.
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July 1st, 2009 12:37 PM
I saw online that there is a Persuader at Academy for $289 that comes with a full stock and pistol grip. I might get that and then purchase a stock/grip combo with some extra shell holders. Also a sling if it doesn't come with one.
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July 1st, 2009 01:09 PM
I use a Rem. 870 with 20" brl. Surefire forend/light Knoxx stock and a side saddle and sling. I have $1000 + in it. If I did it over, I would have gone with a VangComp 12g. they come with most of this stuff,and I wouldn't have a box full of after market parts.
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July 1st, 2009 01:26 PM
Remington 870 or Mossberg 500/590 with an 18" barrel will be sufficient for home defense either in 12 or 20 gauge. I personally won't go with anything else other than 12 gauge, but that is just me. If recoil is an issue for you, there are reduced recoil loads available. The 870 and 500 are probably the most two popular pump action shotguns around with near infinite aftermarket accessories. I chose to replace my 870 with a Benelli Super Nova Tactical as my primary HD weapon. For the price you get a lot of gun with the Super Nova,
Ghost ring sights
Polymer coated steel receiver that resists rust and corrosion
Chrome lined bore
Ability to field strip without tools (except have to remove the stock to remove trigger group)
Accessories for the Super Nova are much more limited than the 870 and Mossberg 500, but there isn't much that is needed other than maybe a mag tube extension.
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July 4th, 2009 04:53 PM
Slugs in 18" bbl
I've used slugs in an 18.5" "Cruiser" bbl on a Mossburg 500 for years, and with some practice have been able to keep 5 shot groups @ 50yds on a 9" paper plate. The trick for me is getting my head down so I can 'sight' along the bbl using the front bead as a guide. I made it a little easier to get a quick sight by putting a "True-Glo" front bead in place of the original brass bead.
Originally Posted by zacii
P.S. I use the cheap Winchester foster slugs. The premium and sabot slugs don't seem to be any more accurate from the smooth-bore.
Hope this helps.
July 4th, 2009 05:16 PM
I was going to go with the 870 until I handled the Mossbery 590a1. Pretty much love at first site.
I've got the 18.5" barrel, it's 5 +1 and shoots like a dream.
Slugs out of the 18.5" barrel are no problem with the standard bead out to 25 yards. 25 to 50 yards is pretty much shooter dependent. Farther than that and you want to go with better sites for sure.
Bottom line you can not go wrong with either the Rem 870 or Mossy 500/590. Handle them both and go with the one that feels best.
As for the pistol grip, if you do not have a full stock you will find your accuracy just plain sucks at more than about 10 yards, and not much better closer. They may look "tacti cool" but you will be betting your life on the effectiveness. What's your life worth?
July 4th, 2009 06:45 PM
I have a Maverick Security 88, 8 shot, 12 guage with a pistol grip full stock, heat shield with ghost sites, and flashlight mount. All for around $325
Why spend a lot of money when the gun is hopefully going to collect dust in standby mode.
July 4th, 2009 09:41 PM
I have the 590 Compact Cruiser with the Breacher tip. Granted, I won't be using it to blow doors, but it also would hurt like hell if used as an impact weapon. I don't mind the pistol grip, it's a good fallback gun for my GF to use. (Lock bedroom door, fire on anything coming in without the secret word, etc.)
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July 6th, 2009 08:10 PM
This is my set up. It is the Mossberg Persuader with the Knoxx stock. I like it a lot.
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July 6th, 2009 08:22 PM
I've waited all these posts to make my suggeston. I know you said pump, but as a different option to consider...
I have a Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme (in 12 ga.) as my HD gun.
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I'm still armed with my Kimber at home, but I can pull out the 'initial welcome wagon' for the individual(s) kicking in a door or window...then Mr. Kimber comes calling.
I had the gun reworked for smooth operation and ease of ejecting shells. I can shoot and reload fairly quickly.
How many shots do you need at home?
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