This is a discussion on R-25, M1A, Remington XCR, Ruger hawkeye M77 within the Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I have a DPMS in .308 and it is basically a "black Rifle" Not what I would like to hunt with. My dilemma is that ...
I have a DPMS in .308 and it is basically a "black Rifle" Not what I would like to hunt with. My dilemma is that I want a .308 for hunting deer here in NY. I love the M1A, and the R-25 (about the same price) but know that a good bolt is hard to beat. The Remington 700 compact looks like a very nice weapon and so does the Ruger M77. It is really tough to find all of these to look at non the less get to shoot. What have you guys got to say, good, bad or indifferent about any or all of these. Big field but trying to decide. Cost is an issue but once I decide it will not be. Thanks....
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The only one on your list that I have any experience with the M1A.
It is 9.8 lbs, just about the same as the AR-10 or any other .308 that is not designed as a light weight hunting rifle (but this is about 2 lbs heavier than the average .308 bolt gun designed for hunting). As far as its handling goes, it handles real nice and you can get 5 rnd magazines for it if you do not want to look like “Rambo” while hunting. If you do not mind the weight and want to stay with a semi-auto that doesn’t have the “assault rifle look” then the M1A is a very good choice. It handles well and has good accuracy.
If you are reasonably good with a bolt action, or if you are a good enough shot that you will not need a second shot, and you want the lighter weight then I would go with a bolt gun.
The Winchester Model 70 if you can find on e is an excellent shooter. Just make sure you get the "pre-64" style action with the claw extractor not the push feed. That being said My next new bolt wil probably be a Browning A bolt or X bolt with the Dura-touch stock....very sweet guns.
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Most of the major brands are good hunting rifles. I suggest going to a gun shop with a large selection and seeing in person which you like. Everyone is shaped a little different and while I love Browning rifles they don't fit me as well as Remington.
If you buy a Ruger, Remington, Browning, Winchester (classic/pre 64), Howa, Weatherby or Savage you will get a good hunting rifle. Just pick the one that fits you best (or feels the best in your hands). Bolt action rifles have been around so long and are such a competitive market that all the major players bring a very refined product to the consumer.
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If you shoot it well enough, I'd say go ahead and hunt with the DPMS - it doesn't matter what the bullet comes out of. To heck with the anti's, I say twist the knife a bit.