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Hi Point 995 TS 9mm carbine Pros & Cons?: MERGED

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    I've never even seen a HP in person, but a common meme I hear is that the pistols are crap, but the carbines run like a Timex... seems the HP carbine owners above give some support to that notion.

    Sure looks fun... especially Landor's setup...
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    Thanks for merging this...believe it or not I looked for a thread.

    Guess the old eyes are doing it again.

    After reading the opinions, I am looking forward to Monday and this lump of cash in my pocket is getting heavy. Maybe I'll find time tomorrow...

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    They are good rifles for the money and you can't beat the lifetime guarantee. I put a good quality 1-4x24 CQ illuminated dot scope & rings on mine that cost more than the rifle. I removed the barrel rail and free floated the barrel.




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    HP carbines are fun shooters and a good starter gun for the kidies but can be had for around $150-180, spend some time shoping befor you buy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    As a follow-up to my earlier post, I can now say I've shot and handled the Hi-Point 9mm.

    A friend of mine recently got one for around $250. It's a pretty fun little pop gun with more than decent accuracy. I wouldn't mind having one to play around with or keep in the truck.
    Thats basically what everybody says after shooting one.

    Here is the thing with Hi Point guns.....the pistols are made with zinc alloy (Zimac) and have massive bolts because they are a blowback design and for firearms with a blowback design in any caliber larger than .380 the bolt has to be overly large to handle the pressures. Thats why the pistol are ugly, overly large and have bad ergonomics. Now the carbine on the other hand are a blowback design and also has a very large bolt but in a small rifle thats not an issue. The parts that count are all steel and my gun has held up to many thousands of round of 9mm. They are what they are, and what they are is great fun and thats the bottom line.
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    If they could improve the quality of the mags for these little carbines they'd fix the weakest part of the whole platform. ProMags makes a 15 rounder but the nearly unanimous reviews are that none of those work.

    IF they made better oem mags and you could find a reliable 15 round mag then this little carbine would be good for more than just fun plinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gideon View Post
    If they could improve the quality of the mags for these little carbines they'd fix the weakest part of the whole platform. ProMags makes a 15 rounder but the nearly unanimous reviews are that none of those work.

    IF they made better oem mags and you could find a reliable 15 round mag then this little carbine would be good for more than just fun plinking.

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    I do have a couple of Pro Mag 15 rounders that I managed to make work reliably. But it's not a job for the impatient. Their mags suck and it amazes me that they're still in business selling such sub standard products.
    However with some patience and a dremel and little bit of know how you can make the 15 rounders work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirate View Post
    Thats basically what everybody says after shooting one.

    Here is the thing with Hi Point guns.....the pistols are made with zinc alloy (Zimac) and have massive bolts because they are a blowback design and for firearms with a blowback design in any caliber larger than .380 the bolt has to be overly large to handle the pressures. Thats why the pistol are ugly, overly large and have bad ergonomics. Now the carbine on the other hand are a blowback design and also has a very large bolt but in a small rifle thats not an issue. The parts that count are all steel and my gun has held up to many thousands of round of 9mm. They are what they are, and what they are is great fun and thats the bottom line.
    Isnt every pistol made a blowback design? For that matter every semi auto gun, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF GAS OPERATED GUNS IE: sks, ak, ar, etc. Just wondering cause i see that term used alot and always thought, "isnt that a moot point". Is a 1911, glock, sw, whatever not a "blowback design"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjsjr View Post
    Isnt every pistol made a blowback design? For that matter every semi auto gun, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF GAS OPERATED GUNS IE: sks, ak, ar, etc. Just wondering cause i see that term used alot and always thought, "isnt that a moot point". Is a 1911, glock, sw, whatever not a "blowback design"?
    No, every pistol is not a blowback, in fact most guns 9mm and larger use recoil actions which is very different and more complex than blowback designs. The short recoil / locked breech action dominates the semi auto pistols market in general, and 1911's, Glocks and most any pistol with a few exceptions with a larger caliber than .380 are recoil operated. The 1911 uses (John M. Browning) recoil operated tilting barrel design, with locking lugs.
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    Thanks for clarity :D

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    I have one and I love it! Great fun on the range. I just wish they would hurry up and offer the carbine in 45ACP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjsjr View Post
    Thanks for clarity :D

    This explains the differences between a blowback and recoil/locked breech design better than I can.

    Blowback vs locked actions (John Bercovitz)
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    Actually...the 9mm will penetrate more walls in a house than a .223.
    some while it may be good for home defense...it is not for penetration.


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    My gun could be yours ugly twin sister,the aftermarket stock improves the cosmetics and mine is very accurate,they make great Home defense carbines,not as much over penetration worries like an AR15 or AK and they are very light.The 995 is good value for the money
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWFD View Post
    I have one and I love it! Great fun on the range. I just wish they would hurry up and offer the carbine in 45ACP.
    I saw on Hi-Points site that the 40 is to be released in March, and the 45 is due out in May

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