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The best CQ long arm weapon IMHO

This is a discussion on The best CQ long arm weapon IMHO within the Defensive Rifles & Shotgun Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by onetuza Personally, when I get some bucks, I'm going to get a 12 gage with pretty darn good capacity (12), easily reloaded ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by onetuza View Post
    Personally, when I get some bucks, I'm going to get a 12 gage with pretty darn good capacity (12), easily reloaded (12 round magazines), that's reliable and affordable.

    Saiga 12 Russian AK Shotgun IZ 109
    This is an interesting fire arm. But IMHO, it has a major drawback.
    SEMI-AUTO = Poss. Jambs.

    But then again this mfg. although not "pretty", produceses reliable weapons. ( I own a Saiga AK47 .308 )

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    Quote Originally Posted by puffer View Post
    This is an interesting fire arm. But IMHO, it has a major drawback.
    SEMI-AUTO = Poss. Jambs.

    But then again this mfg. although not "pretty", produceses reliable weapons. ( I own a Saiga AK47 .308 )

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    And, as I said in my earlier post, the Saiga's based on the AK design, and are made in the same plant. I figure that speaks a lot about their quality. I was thrilled when my wife gave be one for my birthday in August. I just got 4 of the 12 round magazines gelivered Thursday, and once I get a job, I'll get the 20 round drum magazine.

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    Agree it is a good, maybe one of the best choices.

    Quote Originally Posted by puffer View Post
    ...Racking it home gets the "message" across...
    I think this is often over stressed, as it also lets the BG know where you are, an estimation of your firearm type, plus there is a possibility you will not have time to rack the first shell.

    The only noise I am concerned with is bang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puffer View Post
    This is an interesting fire arm. But IMHO, it has a major drawback.
    SEMI-AUTO = Poss. Jambs.

    But then again this mfg. although not "pretty", produceses reliable weapons. ( I own a Saiga AK47 .308 )

    Puffer


    Do you reccomend against carrying a semi-automatic pistol then?

    I've seen more jams with pumps than semi-auto shotties. People short stroke them all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeep45238 View Post
    Do you reccomend against carrying a semi-automatic pistol then?

    I've seen more jams with pumps than semi-auto shotties. People short stroke them all the time.
    In the "few" years I have been evolved with firearms. I have seen "MURPHY" @ work more times than I can count "jamming" my & others guns I can attest that even the simplest "platforms" can jam ( even if in excellent condition, good ammo etc.). But I have, IMHO observed, the simpler the mechanism. is the less chance Murphy" has to play. So my rule = KISS

    I am NOT saying that "pumps" will not or do not Jam ( & your reference to one of the frequent causes is valid.But, in my experience, the Pump is more reliable than the semi-auto.

    As to this- "Do you reccomend against carrying a semi-automatic pistol then? "
    As happens YES.
    Although I do own a Custom Springfield 1911 & I "sometimes" carry it. BUT, my PRIMARY carry is a S&W 4"
    66 .357 mag (Hydro shocks) My secondary is a Ruger SP101 ( tuned) .357 mag (Hydro shocks.)
    WHY ??? ( think, in the "heat of battle" enter the operator ( ME. ))

    FYI, yes once in over 40 year, I have had a revolver jam. ( not a S&W but a custom "Weson". ( extractor rod problem )

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    Puffer,
    I agree, never pick a fight with an old man. He might have to kill you to keep from getting hurt.
    In the woods I carry a Cold Steel "Bushman". In my pocket I carry a Buck 110.
    Knife fighting for me is a last resort. You have to get within arms reach and that's too close!
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    I concur every home should have a .12ga. Mine has a Mossberg 590a1. To solve the recoil issue with the fairer sex, just use low recoil 00's. Plenty of power to do the job, but noticeably less recoil. A compensation stock also helps.
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