Buying first SHTF rifle - AK or AR15?

Buying first SHTF rifle - AK or AR15?

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    Buying first SHTF rifle - AK or AR15?

    Assuming this is your very first military-style SHTF gun - would you buy an AK or AR15?

    Myself and two other guys at local gun club are trying to make this decision now. I realize it's been debated to death. We are researching articles, posts, videos, etc. I was just curious to see what percentage here would buy which gun.................

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    I voted AR-15, its a great platform

    For a SHTF rifle though, have you considered something like the Armalite AR-10... its an AR-15 chambered in 7.62; Best of both worlds

    edit - I've owned a 2 AR's and 1 Yugo AK... both are great guns but I could reach out twice the distance w/ the AR's
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    I guess it depends on how bad the SHTF is. I love my AR and AK but like a Glock, an AK just keeps going and going. The AR's as stated win for distance but they have more moving parts and require more lubrication. It is a loaded question. :)

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    AK or AR? This video should help you decide. I am an AR guy for the obvious reasons.

    YouTube - AK 47 vs M16
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    Of the two you listed*, AR-15.

    Reasons--accuracy, accuracy, accuracy. I've owned a couple AK's (Maadi ARM and Norinco 56s), and neither one will break 4" at 100 yards; my worst AR will go well under half that, and my best will break 3/4 inch--both with irons.

    Add in how much the AR is completely customizable to what you want, ammo (here in the US--I couldn't care less what they're shooting in darkest Dirkadirkastan) would be more common in SHTF, ease of adding optics to an AR, MUCH better ergo's in the AR...it's the better platform.

    As far as reliability, if this was a true M4/M16 vs AK47 debate, there'd be valid points...however, since we're only talking about semi-autos, not so much.

    *(My true choice for a SHTF rifle would be a HK91. I'll take the .308, I'll take it's roller-locked reliability, and I'll take it's accuracy.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landor View Post
    I guess it depends on how bad the SHTF is. I love my AR and AK but like a Glock, an AK just keeps going and going. The AR's as stated win for distance but they have more moving parts and require more lubrication. It is a loaded question. :)
    I seldom find replies that express my sentiments on the subject at hand. This one just fits, and I don't feel the need to add anything to it. Put me down in the minority side of the list for the AK as well.

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    You can carry twice as much 5.56 as you can 7.62. Do you want to make bigger holes or more holes?

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    With the price hike AKs have taken, an AR isn't any more expensive any more. The days of $325 Romanians are gone I'm afraid. I'd go AR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landor View Post
    I guess it depends on how bad the SHTF is. I love my AR and AK but like a Glock, an AK just keeps going and going. The AR's as stated win for distance but they have more moving parts and require more lubrication. It is a loaded question. :)

    This.

    It's a question of durability versus accuracy. The AK is known for it's durability, whereas the AR is known for it's accuracy. Which is more important to you and your friends?

    Personally, I prefer the AK for TEOTWAWKI scenario.

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    AR= America's Rifle
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    Quote Originally Posted by adaman04 View Post
    With the price hike AKs have taken, an AR isn't any more expensive any more. The days of $325 Romanians are gone I'm afraid. I'd go AR.
    hmmm, these were in stock last week, show out today
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    I can drive 2 blocks to a store and pick up a new AK for $575, but they are a little higher priced than some other folks in town, I just happen to know they have them on the shelf right now

    I voted AK since thats what I did
    in SHTF I won't be shooting at 500yards will be much closer, I like the AK's reliability and power to punch through cover for a SHTF situation
    that being said.....I have both and lots to feed 'em both
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siafu View Post
    AK or AR? This video should help you decide. I am an AR guy for the obvious reasons.

    YouTube - AK 47 vs M16

    Ya know, I watched this very same video a few days ago. I found it hard to believe. Is the average AK actually this inaccurate?

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    AK... they won't break, and if they do, they still work

    I have an SKS and an AK with plenty of ammo for both if the SHTF.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVfB3uxtB4w

    I mean it is #1 for a reason :)

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    I think I went with a happy (if more expensive) middle ground and got an AR with a piston gas system. AR accuracy with much improved reliability. And I'm assuming that in TEOTWAWKI 5.56/.223 will be easier to scrounge. I'm saving up for what I hope will be an even better compromise, an AR-10 with a piston system.
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    If you wanna dress it up, AR. If you are a purist and want a straight rifle, AK. Taking it a step further, not just any will do. In AR's you need a top tier gun such as Colt, Noveske, BCM, LMT. In an AK you need a good quality gun like Yugo, Arsenal, etc.

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