Easy explaination on using MilDot scope
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I tried MilDot.com and still not clear on it....

November 14th, 2009 04:06 AM
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Easy explaination on using MilDot scope
Can anyone explain in a simple way how to use a MilDot scope?
I tried MilDot.com and still not clear on it.

November 14th, 2009 03:37 PM
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Each dot represent aiming point for holdover and windage. Gives you a specfic reference for different ranges and cross winds. Zero for 100 yds. Back up to 200 yds, line up cross hairs and fire. Then check the dots to see whitch dot will put you back on zero. That will be the dot you use for 200 yds. Keep working your way out in range. Most mildots are calibrated for a specific round, but it is best to use this procedure to double check. Do the same thing for different wind speeds.
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November 14th, 2009 04:48 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Since this is a 50 cal I think i will zero the cross hairs at 300 yards and then use the bottom MilDots for 200 and 100 yards. I need to see if the MilDot will work this way for the ballistics of the 50cal.
Since there are 4 MilDots above the 300 yard sighted in cross hairs I assume that will take me out to 700 yards?
The next question is when I run out of MilDot and start to use the elevation knob do you have any idea how many clicks it takes to get the bullet impacts up (like is each click going to move the impact an inch?)
I am trying to get as much information before I start sighting in the rifle because unlike a .22 this thing costs a lot to feed. The good thing is that here in Arizona we have nothing but long distances to shoot and this will be a new experience.
Again, thanks for your help.

November 14th, 2009 05:44 PM
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Ck here Shooting Articles  UltimateSniper.com for a lot of info on long range shooting.
This one should answer your question http://www.ultimatesniper.com/Docs/24.PDF
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November 14th, 2009 05:46 PM
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Each click is a ¼ minute of angle on most scopes, what that means is at 100 yards 4 clicks will change point of impact one inch, at 200 yards it will change 2 inches, at 600 yards it will change 6 inches.

November 14th, 2009 08:12 PM
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November 15th, 2009 04:14 AM
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ntkb I am talking about a MilDot scope that does not use MOA.
airslot that was very helpfulthanks
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November 15th, 2009 02:33 PM
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''MinuteOfAngle "
The term "minuteofangle" (MOA) is used regularly by target shooters at the range, but is probably understood, thoroughly, by few (the same goes for mildots). Defined loosely, one MOA = 1" @ 100 yards; so, if you shot your rifle 5 times into a 100yard target and every shot went into a oneinch circle you had drawn on the paper, then your rifle could be said to shoot 1 MOA. Likewise, if every shot goes into a twoinch circle at 200 yards, then you're shooting 1 MOA. A 10inch group at 500 yards would be 2 MOA.
Now for the fun part. There are 360 degrees in a circle. Each degree can be broken down further into minutes. There are 60 minutes in a degree. Likewise, there are 60 seconds in a minute. Now, to figure out the distance subtended by 1 minute at any particular distance, we need merely to plug those two values into a simple trigonometric equation. The tangent function fits the bill nicely. Here's the equation:
tan(angle) = distance subtended/distance to the target (units must be consistente.g., 1/36 of a yard [1"] divided by 100 yards)
Now, we know the angle (1 minute or 1/60 of a degree) and we know the distance to the target (100 yards), but we need to figure out the actual distance subtended at the target (i.e., is 1 MOA actually 1" @ 100 yards?). What we need to do is solve for "distance subtended." Here's our final equation:
tan(angle)*distance to the target = distance subtended
Make sure your calculator is in "degree" mode (as opposed to "radian" or "gradian") and type in 1/60 (for degrees) and hit the "tangent" button. Then multiply that by 100 yards. This should give you the distance (in yards) subtended at 100 yards. Multiply this by 36 to get inches. The answer should be:
1.047197580733"
This is just a hair over the commonly quoted "one inch." At 1000 yards, this would be almost 10 1/2 inches. Apparently, it is just a coincidence that 1 MOA happens to be REALLY close to 1" @ 100 yards. It is, however, quite convenient.
The MilDot
The "Mil" in "MilDot" does not stand for "Military"; it stands for "milliradian." The radian is a unitless measure which is equivalent, in use, to degrees. It tells you how far around a circle you have gone. 2 PI radians = 360 degrees. Using 3.14 as the value of PI, 6.28 radians take you all the way around a circle. Using a cartesian coordinate system, you can use "x" and "y"values to define any point on the plane. Radians are used in a coordinate system called "polar coordinates." A point on the plane is defined, in the polar coordinate system, using the radian and the radius. The radian defines the amount of rotation and the radius gives the distance from the origin (in a negative or positive direction).
ANYWAY, the radian is another measurement of rotation (the degree/minute/secondsystem being the first). This is the system used in the mildot reticle. We use the same equation that we used before, but, instead of your calculator being in "degree" mode, switch it to "radian" mode. One milliradian = 1/1000 (.001) radians. So, type .001 into your calculator and hit the "tangent" button. Then multiply this by "distance to the target." Finally, multiply this by 36 to get inches subtended at the given distance. With the calculator in "radian" mode, type:
tangent(.001)*100*36 = 3.6000012"
So, one milliradian is just over 3.6 inches at 100 yards. If we extrapolate, two milliradians equal about 6 feet at onethousand yards. You'll see the importance of this, shortly.
The MilDot Reticle
The mildot reticle was designed around the measurement unit of the milliradian. The dots, themselves, were designed with this in mind and the spacing of the dots was also based upon the milliradian. This allows the shooter to calculate the distance to an object of known height or width. Height of the target in yards divided by the height of the target in milliradians multiplied by 1000 equals the distance to the target in yards. For example, take a 6foottall man (2 yards). Let's say that the top of his head lines up with one dot and his feet line up four dots down. So: (2/4)*1000 = 500 yards away. This same technique can be used to estimate lead on a moving target or to compensate for deflection on a windy day.
The distance from the center of one dot to the center of the next dot is 1 milliradian. We are told (by the folks at Leupold) that the length of a dot is 1/4 milliradian or 3/4 MOA (Given this much information, one can determine that the distance between dots is 3/4 milliradian.).* I use the term "length" because the mildot is not round. It is oblong. The "dots" on the verticle crosshair run oblong in the vertical direction. The dots on the horizontal crosshair run oblong in the horizontal direction (i.e., they are lying on their sides). The width of each dot is an arbitrary distance and is not used for any practical purpose. Like a duplex reticle, the mildot reticle is thicker towards the edges and uses thin lines in the middle where the dots are located and the crosshairs cross. The distance between the opposite thick portions is 10 milliradians.
*NOTE: 1/4 milliradian = .9" and 3/4 MOA = .785", so, obviously, a mildot cannot be both 1/4 milliradian and 3/4 MOA. I called Premier Reticles (they make Leupold's mildot reticles) and got an explanation: the dots on their mildot reticles are 1/4 mil. They are not 3/4 MOA. Apparently, they (Leupold?) just figured that more shooters understand MOA than milliradians, so they just gave a figure (in MOA) that was close, but not super precise.
Confused?
1 Mil Increment
100 yds  3.6"
200 yds  7.2"
300 yds 12"
400 yds  14.4"
500 yds  18"
here are some easy place to look to practice:
Shooterready Mildot Ranging Classroom Demo
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November 16th, 2009 12:53 AM
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Best post I've seen in a long time. Lots of good information in there.

November 16th, 2009 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Best post I've seen in a long time. Lots of good information in there.
The original post and post #8 have been copied to the reference section.
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