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    This looks interesting...

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    I'd say...wonder when they'll officially get it in the market.

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    First half of 2010 says Bushmaster (officially). There's really only a few ways Remington/Bushmaster can screw this up, and all of them at least somewhat related to the FN SCAR (its direct competition):

    1) Not offering a factory SBR or short barrel assembly from the onset. That's one of the single biggest complaints with the SCAR.

    2) Pricing the rifle above $2000. The FN SCAR can now be had from $2200-2400. The original target price per Magpul was $1500, but a $2000 MSRP (street price being nearer to the original target price) would be a freakin' winner, guaranteed.

    3) Not offering the extended polymer handguards as they said they would. Us long-armed folks need room and it's very clear from the folks waiting for this rifle that these are wanted. Leave the top open so the gas block can breathe, fine, but give us somethin' to grip that isn't a skeletonized aluminum rail.

    If they can manage to avoid all of these things, I and many others will absolutely buy the ACR. It's a sound concept. I know Bushmaster's done some positive design improvements, but I still have this worry that they'll find a way to screw it up (maybe with a 1:9 sub-par barrel or no iron sights or something). The SCAR's been out a couple years now and they (Bushmaster/Remington) have had plenty of time to learn from its reception.


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    Thanks for the link.

    Some of its features are distinctly superior to the AR 15.

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    Modular idea , interchangeabilty, easy replace / repair, etc. in the field. .... going for the military contract .. huh.

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    Having watched the video, if this comes out to be the way it is portrayed, all I can say is I WANT ONE

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    Looks to be a good one.

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    Looks like they could have a winner there!
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    Bushmaster Presents - ACR

    says it will be available in like 4 days.

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    ...And according to their new catalog, Bushmaster screwed it up with a 1:9 twist barrel. Nice freakin' job.


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    call me a noob but why is it ruined with the 1:9 twist barrrell?

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    I think I know what I'm saving my pennies for...

    I hope this new job comes through and one of them will be mine. now to just figure out an excuse to tell my girlfriend on why every penny I made for the first 6 months of my job are gone... maybe she'll buy "I needed uniforms"
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    Yeah I don't see the problem with a 1:9 barrel. Am I missing something?

    That gun looks badass by the way.

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    With a 1:9 twist, the accuracy will not be as good out past say 100 years or so with heavier rounds. But with 55grain 5.56 rounds it is fine. But a lot of people like to shoot heavier rounds out past 100 yards. A twist ration of 1:7 is needed for that.

    I still want one. I really, really want one. But I can wait to see if it turns out to be a lemon or not. I'll wait for a year or so before I commit to buying one.
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    They invested the time and resources for hammer-forged barrels. Cold hammer forged barrels are ideal for high-volume shooters, most of whom are competitors, LE, training junkies, etc. The ACR has always been marketed to this "hard use" crowd. This is the same crowd whom overwhelmingly shoot and request 1:7 or 1:8 twist barrels that handle the heavier rounds the slightly looser 1:9 twist barrels won't. If you're going to pay closer to $2k for a gun you better be able to shoot all of your ammo through it. That nobody else is making hammer forged barrels in 1:9 twist is a pretty good clue.

    Remington got it right. Kudos to them.

    Edit: To be clear, it's not just the barrel itself that gets me (and many others). As someone else I know put it, after three years of waiting "she finally showed and was missing three front teeth." There is no reason this rifle shouldn't have come out perfect. Slapping a semi-auto FCG into the Remington version was just too much, I guess.


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