Which would you get? The AR or the AK

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    Which would you get? The AR or the AK

    I have been thinking of getting a AR or a AK, and all I am looking for is a no frills entry level base model.

    What would you guys that have either of these platforms suggest? These are the 3 set ups I am thinking about. 1-Ak, 1-Ar, and 1-Ar kit. With the AR kit does it come with everything needed to have a fully working AR when complete?

    1-CIA Ak-WASR-10


    2-Oly Ar, model K16 flat top


    3-Model 1 sales CAR kit

    Maybe this stripped rcvr for the kit


    I'm kinda wanting to do the kit, but am wondering how hard it would be to put the lower together.


    Remember right now I just want a low cost entry into either platform. And not sure which platform would be best.

    I probably want be shooting over 100 yards and I realize the AK will get worse accuracy than the AR. Would 2"-4" groups at 100 yards be asking to much of the AK?

    What I do like about the AR is the ability to buy additional uppers down the road and have the capability to shoot different calibers.

    So what would be your choice of the given and then what would you recommend if different from the choices.

    More or less just a fun plinker with the capability of pulling HD and SHTF duties as well.
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    If you have no bias toward either one, I would build an AR from a kit. If you're worried about assembling the lower yourself (and it can be a bit hard for someone who's never done it), you could always buy an assembled upper and an assembled lower and just snap them together.

    Del-Ton has flat-top no-frills barrel assemblies for $395, or you can build a custom upper however you want.

    They also have completed lowers for $180 without the buttstock or $240 with buttstock.

    So for $635 plus shipping and $15 for an FFL transfer, you could have a professionally built AR from a respected company, and all you'd have to do is snap the recievers together.

    If you want to try your hand at assembling the lower, their stripped lowers are only $120 and their rifle kits are $465. Total price of $585, but a bit more work on your part.

    I certainly have nothing against AK's. I own a WASR-3 and it's a great gun. But ergonomically, my AR's are lighter, more comfortable to handle and shoot with, and easier to sight. Not to mention, they are far easier to customize.

    The poor accuracy claims about the AK are largely myth, in my opinion. They will shoot plenty well so long as the barrel isn't shot and the sights are straight. The rub is that sometimes the imported Romanian guns are not the greatest in terms of quality control. But if you know what common problems to check for and you find a good one, they are perfectly fine guns.

    Again, for a general go-to gun, if I had to choose one, it would be an AR. They're just more versatile and easier to customize however you want.
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    I just put my 1st lower together, pretty easy. Google search it, if worried, they have step by step sites. You may try the bargain bin for a cheap AR, lots of good reviews.

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    I put mine together not hard you can get alot of help and diagrams from AR15.com
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    Shouldn't the thread title be "which one would you get first, the AR or AK?
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    First off, plan on getting both.

    I'm no expert, but here's some of what I've learned about AK's:

    I have a WASR-10/63. I paid $370, so if they want more than $400-$450, be careful you're not getting screwed. With that being said, it's a very basic AK-47.

    The WASR-10 is a Romanian made AK. Some have an issue with the front sight or gas tube being canted, so if you can, check it out before buying it.

    Yugoslavian AK's are supposed to be nice (and they cost more) but they don't come with chrome lined barrels.

    Siagas are Russian made AK's, but they come in hunting configuration. You'll have to convert it, which takes some gunsmithing abilities since you'll have to open up the mag well to accept a double stack.

    If you've never looked into "922r compliance" you may want to start.

    Do a lot of research before you buy anything. Just be careful of personal bias that people display towards a certain country's variant.

    WASR's are look down upon, but you'll find a lot of people like myself who are happy with theirs. You get what you pay for, but as long as it goes bang and doesn't have any jamming issues, what more can you really ask for?

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    This site has a lot of info-http://www.dinzagarms.com/index.html

    Info on the 922r compliance- http://www.dinzagarms.com/922r/922r.html
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    I had the same problem you had deciding, so I got both. Glad I did - got the Bushmaster AR-15 and the Yugo AK-47.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugergirl View Post
    Shouldn't the thread title be "which one would you get first, the AR or AK?
    LOL, yes you are right actually.


    Thanks everyone for the replies. I do want both but have to decide which first. I like the Model 1 sales AR kits and they seem to me reasonably priced for AR's. I don't think I would have to much trouble assembling the lower as I have bobtailed my 45 and that turned out pretty good. I have also worked on allot of my 22's in the past doing all sorts of mods to them.

    I really am going to have to read up on the 922 compliance stuff as I really would like to have both the AR and the AK.

    I'm kinda leaning toward the AK-74 more than the AK-47 mainly because of the cheap rounds available for it. To me the AK's and all the different makers is confusing. Especially when I just want a entry level. Like was said something that goes bang every time and has reasonable accuracy at 100 yards.

    The Ak's are right around $400 and there's one at a shop I go to at times for $450 (if they still have it). the AR from Model 1 Sales would be in the neighborhood of $600-$650.

    I'm thinking the AR if taxes get done in time and the AK if they don't. That way I may can talk the wife into getting the AR out of the taxes.

    Please keep the suggestions coming. Especially any info you have on particular AR's or AK's.

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    Easy question. The AR.

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    Siafu,

    Any particular reason for picking the AR?

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    Check out this guy's YouTube videos. He does a great comparison study between the AR and AK: YouTube - AK-47 vs AR-15 Part 1, by Nutnfancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomEgun View Post
    I put mine together not hard you can get alot of help and diagrams from AR15.com

    Also, M4Carbine.net
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    They tend to be a little more expensive, but I've got a piston AR and love it. The thing runs great, the BCG barely gets warm, and there is little in the way of fouling.

    Downsides are increased cost and there is a bit of added weight up front, but it doesn't bother me. YMMV.
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    Well...I like the reliability of the AK, but the caliber of the AR (possible to carry more ammo) so I got a Saiga AK chambered for 5.56 NATO.

    Problem solved (for me).
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