The Coach Gun has gone Tac-ta-cool

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    The Coach Gun has gone Tac-ta-cool



    Stoeger has gone one step further with their coach guns with the release of the new Double Defense. The design is simple based off of their proven coach gun design. New features include a single triger, green fiber-optic front sight, ported barrels, all metal is finished in a matte blue finish with matte black stock and forearm, and the addition of two picatinny rail accessory mounts: one on the receiver for red-dot sights and a second factory-installed rail under the barrels for attaching lasers or tactical lights.

    I can see pros and cons with the release of stoeger's new design of a SD shotgun on a classic firearm. Pros would inculde, the fiber-optic front sight for better sight acquisition in low light environments vs the standard brass bead, single trigger for a quick follow up shot vs trying to switch to the second trigger, picatinny rail for solid flashlight mount vs cutting a rubber intertube into large rubber bands to attach the flashlight with, Cons would include, not having the option of firing both barrels at the same time, the ports would help reduce some of the muzzle climb but would it hamper night vision and also could increase the possibility of blow back, a remote switch would need to be added to the flashlight unless u would want it to remain in the constant on or off position,

    The release of the redesigned coach gun with a new name, could draw more people to the use of a double barrel shotty for home SD.
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    Hmm.

    Interesting concept. I suppose it was just a matter of time.

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    Honestly, I like everything but the ports...but even then, when I've fired ported barrel shotguns in lower light (just morning or falling twilight when deer hunting), I can't say I've ever really seen flash through the ports...full dark, however, may be different, just haven't tried it.

    I would admit, though...I probably wouldn't mount a red-dot sight on the top rail...and remote switches aren't a bad idea on a long gun flashlight.

    If I didn't already have a couple of shottys set up for HD, I could see myself seriously considering one of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuda66 View Post
    I would admit, though...I probably wouldn't mount a red-dot sight on the top rail...and remote switches aren't a bad idea on a long gun flashlight.
    I wouldn't mount an optic on it either, due to the fact that a shotgun is designed to be pointed vs aimed like a rifle, and with an optic u would be more likely to try and aim it like a rifle

    I have been looking at getting a coach gun and while i was looking at stoeger's website i ran across this and though i would share it. the pic is from their website
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    i don't get it. if i wanted a tactical shotgun, i'd just buy one. the point of having a coachgun is having a coachgun, not having some tactical mess posing as one.

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    Might have to add another Coach gun to my collection. Does it have ejectors or extractors?
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    This is my coach gun in 12 ga... Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme in 12-Gauge and 20-Gauge with 3” Chamber

    Instead of all the tactical stuff, I had a couple C-notes of work done to the gun by this guy... Coyote Cap Gunworks

    I'm not sure of the need for a fiber optic front sight in 'dim light'. This is not a gun, especially with 00 Buck, that one would even use a sight.

    I am definitely in the minority here who prefer the coach gun for HD.

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    I handled one of the Tactical models the other day...They are ok. They will probably sell plenty because of the "paint it black and call it tactical" crowd.

    I tend to think I would rather have one like Retsupts though.
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    according to their website they have extractors

    i am also looking for a traditional model, was looking at the silverado standard stock model that they ofer just thought i would share this when i found it on their website while i was looking

    Retsupt99 how does the nickel finish hold up on yours? do u know if they used the electroless nickel finish on the gun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by J man View Post
    according to their website they have extractors

    i am also looking for a traditional model, was looking at the silverado standard stock model that they ofer just thought i would share this when i found it on their website while i was looking

    Retsupt99 how does the nickel finish hold up on yours? do u know if they used the electroless nickel finish on the gun?
    Not a problem, in over 3 years...not sure about the process. Coyote Cap (see previous post) did about $200 worth of work... (from a previous post)...

    Here's what Coyote did for me...
    Honed the chambers so shells would drop out from gravity alone.
    Carefully removed sharp edges from around the breach face and the chamber mouths to reduce hangups.
    Modified the firing pin...sightly longer (this avoids a problem with Stoegers after may rounds)
    Smoothed up the internals, including a spring kit that made it easier to operate the lever that opens the gun. (The gun literally 'falls open'.)
    Disabled the automatic safety that engaged every time the gun was opened. The safety can still be engaged manually.
    Added a larger bead sight...for eyes in their 60's.

    When I got it back, it was a different gun. He took an inexpensive Stoeger and made it ready for competition...really smooth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jahwarrior72 View Post
    i don't get it. if i wanted a tactical shotgun, i'd just buy one. the point of having a coachgun is having a coachgun, not having some tactical mess posing as one.
    Quote Originally Posted by jwhite75 View Post
    I handled one of the Tactical models the other day...They are ok. They will probably sell plenty because of the "paint it black and call it tactical" crowd.

    I tend to think I would rather have one like Retsupts though.
    +1 to both. I'm not into tacticool. I do like the coachgun like Retsups. It's on my short list.
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    Mine is similar to Hotguns, barrels just half an inch over legal, it was bought new that way. It's got a dark wood stock and blued metal, not tactical at all. I got it way years ago, at the time I needed a fast handling, short shottie for grouse and rabbit hunting in thick woods and undergrowth. It did the job and more. I think the same characteristics make it a good HD weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Not a problem, in over 3 years...not sure about the process. Coyote Cap (see previous post) did about $200 worth of work... (from a previous post)...

    Here's what Coyote did for me...
    Honed the chambers so shells would drop out from gravity alone.
    Carefully removed sharp edges from around the breach face and the chamber mouths to reduce hangups.
    Modified the firing pin...sightly longer (this avoids a problem with Stoegers after may rounds)
    Smoothed up the internals, including a spring kit that made it easier to operate the lever that opens the gun. (The gun literally 'falls open'.)
    Disabled the automatic safety that engaged every time the gun was opened. The safety can still be engaged manually.
    Added a larger bead sight...for eyes in their 60's.

    When I got it back, it was a different gun. He took an inexpensive Stoeger and made it ready for competition...really smooth.
    Retsupt99

    Thank you for the information, I had read a previous post about your coach gun and what Coyote Cap had done for you. I had read this when I first started looking at the coach guns and have kept them in mind. I will deffinately check more into them when I do make my purchase
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    Anybody know anything about the Century Arms models? They look inexpensive, but well made.
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