Decided on the SOCOM16

Decided on the SOCOM16

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    Decided on the SOCOM16

    I have one and I put an Aimpoint on it 3 years ago. With all the body armor on thugs in my area I'm going to get this gun ready. I like the basic SOCOM16 as it is still lite. I'm going to replace the Aimpoint with a MeOpta K-Dot by getting a Sadlak mount like I have on my N M. I'm keeping h stock the same as I can give a nice Vertical buttstroke with it.
    I'll have a ready mag of AP with an API as the last round.
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    You might oughta add a bayonet to that, just in case.
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    Two places body armor doesn't protect head and around the groin area.

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    Have always like that rifle. Very good choice
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    Most body armor doesn't protect from a .308 round anyhow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    Most body armor doesn't protect from a .308 round anyhow.
    soft body armor won't. If you can score plates and the body armor accepts them you might be OK. Although last I heard they weren't legal for the average Joe to own. I would be rethinking my strategy if I'm being shot with a .308 though...
    There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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    Yeah, but a couple of follow up shots in the same area should make the plate worthless... just saying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpion12 View Post
    Yeah, but a couple of follow up shots in the same area should make the plate worthless... just saying...
    well... if I'm being shot at I'm not going to stick around to be shot in the same spot over and over
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    Can the average person even obtain armor piercing ammunition?

    I know a lot of common rifle rounds can still penetrate light body armor so AP ammo won't be necessary.
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    Whether you carry a rifle or a pistol, you should be prepared for the possibility that neutralizing the threat may involve multiple shots. Anybody defending his life is a fool if he fires one shot and expects it to have Hollywood results.
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    Ammunition To Go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razor02097 View Post
    soft body armor won't. If you can score plates and the body armor accepts them you might be OK. Although last I heard they weren't legal for the average Joe to own. I would be rethinking my strategy if I'm being shot with a .308 though...
    The problem with plates is that the round has to go somewhere even if you defeat it. The FBI has lost a couple of guys to hits in the chest deflecting up through the bottom of the chin and into the head.

    There is no good way to stop a rifle round unless you're in a tank. They can be stopped of course but it's still a crap shoot.
    It is surely true that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Nor can you make them grateful for your efforts.

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    As a demo at the academy, I witnessed a .308 go right through a trauma plate in a vest like it was a paper target!

    It first stopped a 9mm round, then it was slightly cracked by .45acp. Next was the .308 as stated above. Of course this was 15yrs ago and the vest wasn't exactly a new model, I'm sure.
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    "API as the last round"...as in Armor-Piercing Incendiary? You planning on setting the BG on fire? Or your own house on fire after that AP bullet blasts through him, and the wall behind? Maybe the neighbor's house?

    Geez man...a regular ol' .308 will go through body armor just fine. You'll probably get better lethality with a JHP or JSP as well - AP will just zip right through soft tissue. Unless you think you need to stop armored cars or something...
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    I'm wondering if this is even a serious post...

    Basically ANY centerfire rifle round will pass through soft body armor as if it wasn't there. There's absolutely no need for AP (or API, for cryin' out loud) in any SD scenario that I've ever seen, heard of, read about, or even imagined... I've spent 30+ months in combat, and I've never faced an adversary wearing plates...

    I suppose it's possible, but the risk (or, more correctly, absolute certainty) of catastrophic over penetration is of much more concern to me than a gang of IBA wearing bad guys assaulting my house...
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