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			<title>Winchester SXZ?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 00:58:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Simple question: What is the story on this?  Is it a Bass Pro exclusive?  It comes in a very colorful red and black box and in both FMJ and JHP...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Simple question: What is the story on this?  Is it a Bass Pro exclusive?  It comes in a very colorful red and black box and in both FMJ and JHP flavors.  The JHP is $21.99 for 50 and they bullets have a black colored jacket (cue Black Talon memories).  I have never seen it anywhere except BPS.  Can anyone enlighten me?</div>

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			<title>UMC experiences/what do you shoot?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 19:22:57 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Planning on picking up a G19 in the next couple weeks, however, I feel I chose a terrible time to purchase my first 9mm. I picked up a 250 round box...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Planning on picking up a G19 in the next couple weeks, however, I feel I chose a terrible time to purchase my first 9mm. I picked up a 250 round box of Remington UMC today simply because it was reasonably priced, I own no 9mm rounds, and it's the only 9mm ammo I have seen on shelves around here in a while. My question is how do the UMC rounds perform? What other target loads do you recommend? Lastly, what 9mm defensive round do you prefer?</div>

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			<title>22 LR Gel Test with the Beretta Bobcat</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 16:03:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>If you are curious how the 22 LR performs from the Beretta Mini, then you might enjoy this weeks Terminal Test Thursday. 
 
Pocket Guns and Gear: 22...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>If you are curious how the 22 LR performs from the Beretta Mini, then you might enjoy this weeks Terminal Test Thursday.<br />
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<a href="http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2013/05/22-long-rifle-cheap-stuff-ballistics.html" target="_blank">Pocket Guns and Gear: 22 Long Rifle - The Cheap Stuff Ballistics Tests</a><br />
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			<title>Winchester ranger t series or ranger bonded ammo</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 03:41:40 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[The bonded penetrates due to less expansion, but will hold together through any barriers  
 
What would be a better all around SD ammo 
 
I'm talking...]]></description>
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What would be a better all around SD ammo<br />
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I'm talking specifically about the 165 gr 40 cal in a g27</div>

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			<title>9mm in stock</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 01:42:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[At AIMSurplus $13.95/50:  Prvi Partizan PPU 9mm 115grn FMJ 50rd Box <1 min ago 
 
All gone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>At AIMSurplus $13.95/50:  Prvi Partizan PPU 9mm 115grn FMJ 50rd Box &lt;1 min ago<br />
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			<title>380 Auto Remington Golden Saber</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 22:09:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>SGAmmo.com has them in stock but you better hurry! :aargh4: 
 
25 round box - 380 Auto Remington Golden Saber 102 grain JHP Ammo - Limit 20 Boxes |...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>SGAmmo.com has them in stock but you better hurry! :aargh4:<br />
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<a href="http://www.sgammo.com/product/remington/25-round-box-380-auto-remington-golden-saber-102-grain-jhp-ammo-limit-20-boxes" target="_blank">25 round box - 380 Auto Remington Golden Saber 102 grain JHP Ammo - Limit 20 Boxes | SGAmmo.com</a></div>

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			<title>+p-p+ in an old gun</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 19:54:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi,new here and the first question that I would like to put forward is about these hotter than the norm rounds. I purchased online, four boxes of...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,new here and the first question that I would like to put forward is about these hotter than the norm rounds. I purchased online, four boxes of Buffalo Bore .32 ACP +p  75gr. flat nosed rounds. I did not notice the +p notation or it wasn't listed that way on the site. I have spent most of this morning trying to really make sense of the p+ &amp; +p concept. Way too much varying info. Regardless, I presume that I should not have bought them. I have a 1914 Mauser pocket pistol actually made in 1913. The gun is in tremendous condition. It looks like it lived in a night stand and was rarely if ever shot much. Would the consensus here be to never put them through this gun? Or could I use them just for CC. Will they actually make the gun go bang louder Or could they destroy this gun with a single shot. I know this kind of round will shorten its lifespan if used repeatedly. I wanted more of a defensive round for carrying and they were all I could find. Many folks believe that the FMJ with deeper penetration is better than a flared shallower hole from a JHP. What do you all think?<br />
Brad</div>

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			<title>dose anyone shoot 327 federal magnum?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 19:35:35 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>hey I recently bought 327 fed mag ammo. instead of the 357 I thought it was. I know im an idiot, I misread what it was and bought th wrong kind....</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>hey I recently bought 327 fed mag ammo. instead of the 357 I thought it was. I know im an idiot, I misread what it was and bought th wrong kind. point is ive had it up on arms kist for less then what I paid for it and STILL no takers! am I gonna be stuck with this stuff?<br />
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lets try and keepmthe insults to a minimum,  I already know im an idiot.  :redface:</div>

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			<title>Anyone use Prvi Partizan .357 ammo?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 14:20:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I just stumbled upon some online that seems extrememly hot. Honestly almost too hot. 1608 fps and 907 ft lbs. The supposely numbers are hotter than...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I just stumbled upon some online that seems extrememly hot. Honestly almost too hot. 1608 fps and 907 ft lbs. The supposely numbers are hotter than Buffal  bore heavy but at half the price. Box of 50 $20.99.  I'm almost a little leary of putting it in my gp100.</div>

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			<title>How to get the ammo situation back to normal</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 13:26:35 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[So I've noticed a trend. The big box stores like Bass Pro Shops, Cabelas and to a lesser extent Gander Mountain haven't been gouging their ammo...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So I've noticed a trend. The big box stores like Bass Pro Shops, Cabelas and to a lesser extent Gander Mountain haven't been gouging their ammo prices much if any at all. They also have restrictions on how many boxes you can buy. Helps keep demand down. A little. <br />
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Shooting ranges will sell you one box per session. Their prices are almost always slightly higher but not terrible. <br />
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Now look at the online retailers. Ammunition to Go. Lucky Gunner. Ammunition Depot. Yup that's right. They're gouging you. Arms list and Gunbroker? Holy hell. Someone call the price police!<br />
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So moral of the story: just buy from the big box guys and at the range. Stop buying online and feeding these greedy fools the money they are asking for. Most of them buy from the big box guys to sell online!<br />
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I say boycott them. Only buy from companies that have good sales sense and a moral compass. Buy from gun ranges who are keeping us shooting. Say no to the online crooks. Make them sweat and see their investments tied up with nowhere to go. <br />
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Then and only then will ammo prices start falling again, and prospectors will flood the market with boxes of ammo they can no longer sell for stupid prices. <br />
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Let's do this together. What say you?</div>

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			<title>Remington stepping up production</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 16:08:42 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Looks like Remington is expanding to try to meet the higher demand. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Looks like Remington is expanding to try to meet the higher demand.<br />
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<a href="http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/press-releases/2013/ammunition/remingtonexpandsammunitionoperations.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.remington.com/pages/news-...perations.aspx</a><br />
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			REMINGTON® EXPANDS AMMUNITION OPERATIONS<br />
May 09, 2013<br />
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Madison, NC – Remington Arms Company, LLC (“Remington”) announced today its plan to expand operations at the Remington Ammunition Plant in Lonoke, Arkansas. Work on the expansion, which will include the construction of a new building, is expected to begin second quarter of 2013.  The $32 million expansion plan is projected to be in operation by the second quarter of 2014.<br />
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“We are proud to provide job growth within communities that have supported us for so many years, while meeting the increasing global demand for superior ammunition products,” said Jim Grahlmann, Lonoke Plant Manager. “This expansion reinforces our commitment to deliver the finest quality products for our customers.” <br />
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“We continue to invest in all of our manufacturing operations because we are committed to ensuring quality, increasing product availability and improving on-time delivery,” said Kevin Miniard, Chief Operating Officer of Remington. “This significant investment in Lonoke is a testament to that commitment. Our customers can count on Remington to invest in its manufacturing operations in order to ensure that its facilities are state-of-the art and its employees are the best in the industry.”<br />
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The Remington Ammunition Plant, established in 1969, designs and manufactures leading ammunition products with superior craftsmanship. More information about Remington Ammunition can be found at <a href="http://www.remington.com/product-categories/ammunition.aspx" target="_blank">Shotshells - Centerfire Ammo - Rimfire Ammo - Remington Ammunition</a>
			
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			<title>Buckle up ladies and Gents its going to be a Bumpy Ride</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 20:59:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Time to put the Big Boy pants on as Mom would say, its gonna be a bumpy ride:frown:- I'm always searching for information , trying to digest it all...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Time to put the Big Boy pants on as Mom would say, its gonna be a bumpy ride:frown:- I'm always searching for information , trying to digest it all and came upon this which I tend to agree with. <br />
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So at least in this area I tend to agree its going to be more of this for the rest of the year ....<br />
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All I know is, someplace or many places there is a Hell of an amount of Ammo , OK I have a small amount, but I cant shoot as much that's for sure. At times I wonder, is it too much ? I mean I could not carry it all, and damn its heavy and takes up room . At what point is it enough ? I mean if tomorrow you could not find any......Oh that is now. Pondering ....:rolleyes:</div>


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			<title><![CDATA[Don't shoot me: Pics from LAX Parking lot Ammo Sale in Inglewood, Ca]]></title>
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			<description>The sale had a start time of 9am and the first person arrived in line at 3:45am, I arrived around 7:25am and was out before 9:29am. The sale was...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>The sale had a start time of 9am and the first person arrived in line at 3:45am, I arrived around 7:25am and was out before 9:29am. The sale was organized there were no problems at all and they even passed out water,chips, donuts, and other snacks for free. The NRA was there of course lol, no Anti's in sight.<br />
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Many buyers had crates and dolleys of the traditional and modern kind like the ones UPS/FedEx uses and were hauling out of there with thousands of rounds.<br />
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<b><font color="#FF0000"><u>For those who live in SoCal the sale ends at 5pm</u>.</font></b><br />
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<b><u>This guy had well over 4,000rds of .40s&amp;w</u></b><br />
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<b><u>No limit on much you could buy</u></b><br />
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<b><u>This guy here had his ammo box break on him</u></b><br />
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<b><u>I purchased 1,000rds of .40s&amp;w </u></b><br />
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I was only going to buy a box of 500, but I decided to get 1,000 for $346 just in case and to be on the safe side.</div>

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			<title>223 at cabelas</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 15:34:41 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Picked up some Herters 223 at Cabelas online this morning.  Still available as of 5 minutes ago.   
 
Alright, all you dirty Russian ammo haters,...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Picked up some Herters 223 at Cabelas online this morning.  Still available as of 5 minutes ago.  <br />
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Alright, all you dirty Russian ammo haters, start piling on....:wave:</div>

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			<dc:creator>StripesDude</dc:creator>
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			<title>How many rounds do you test for CD ammo?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I have an M&P 9 and  Kahr CM9 for home defense and concealed carry respectively.  I've been practicing extensively with both over the past few months...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have an M&amp;P 9 and  Kahr CM9 for home defense and concealed carry respectively.  I've been practicing extensively with both over the past few months in anticipation of receiving my CHP in the next few weeks.  With the exception of a dented case on a round of WWB that jammed in the chamber of my M&amp;P and a slide that failed to lock back on the CM9 on a magazine of cheap reload stuff I bought at the range, I've had zero problems with ammo after a total of about 1200 rounds through both guns.<br />
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I have been looking at various offerings of self defense ammo, and obviously the prices dictate limited use at the range.  That said, how many rounds do you put through a gun before you are confident that it will work when you need it?  I have no problem putting enough rounds through the guns to verify compatibility, but I also don't want to shoot 1000 rounds at a dollar apiece to get there.<br />
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I've got some cheap Federal hollow point rounds that I keep loaded with the guns in the safe and that seemed to go through both guns fine in limited quantities.<br />
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How much is enough?</div>

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