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This is a discussion on Pistol Cleaning Advice within the Firearm Cleaning & Maintenance forums, part of the General Firearm Discussion category; I need help. Firstly let me say I am a bit anal about cleaning. It's a personal thing I have to deal with.. Is there ...
I need help. Firstly let me say I am a bit anal about cleaning. It's a personal thing I have to deal with..
Is there simple, tried and proven, safe cleaning solutions? It's not that I am overly concerned about health issues but bottles with skull and cross-bones, posion, danger and extremely labels on them bother me.
I have been given suggestons of mixtures of everything from WD-40 to Kroil to litterly putting the pistol in the dishwasher (seriously).
Currently I am using Hoppe's Elite (it does not say #9 on it) cleaner which is biodegradable and (apparently) not deadly.
Is it suffient for the run of the mill, after 50 rounds, type cleaning?
A google search for "gun cleaning solution" turns up about 4 million hits. Gun cleaning+Kroil turns up about 10K hts.
Bottom line is that I want to do what is best for the gun, myself and the environment. And frankly in that order.
One suggestion was "Kroil (or WD40) on a boresnake, three passes and your done" After runnng a patch through the barrel I respectifully disagree to that one.
I realize all ammo produces it's own resdue dependng on a number factors. Right now I am using CCI subsonic CB for practice and training with my wfe. And that is through a Heritage revolver. After a a number rounds we switch over to a S&W 22A and CCI Stngers.
This will be the only guns she will be using until she feels confident and knows the guns well enough to filed strip them and learns their responce based on her actions.
Of the thousands of cleaning kits, chemicals and proceedures, there HAS to one generally acceptated and proven method and chemical compisitaton that is safe and convenient for general purpose use for small arms cleaning.
All I want to do is the right thing, in a responsible fashion, without buring down the house or having to obtain yet another EPS licnese.
Thanks for your time and expertise in educating us.
I would suggest that ANY cleaning solution which is powerful enough to work should be used in a well-ventilated environment.
As to 'effects on the planet' I really don't think using Hoppes, etc has any effect whatsoever. You are probably contributing more to the downfall of the planet by breathing out CO2 just sitting there.
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I'm pretty OCD about cleaning things as well. After reading many threads and recommendations, I decided to go with Weapon Shield. So far, I really like it. Do some searches and see for yourself, maybe it's just what you were looking for
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Problem with all these products is the difficulty in getting what I think is a thorough cleaning. HK does not recommend nor provide any instructions on a detailed strip. There are just so many cracks and crevices in this gun that it's impossible to get as clean as I like it (I'm very OCD about this. I clean after every shoot, even if its only 10-20 rounds). Compound this with the fact that it takes me a good 1.5-2 hours everytime is starting to get on my nerves.
Bought a can of non-chlorinated BrakeKleen. Haven't used it yet, but this stuff can obviously get in the tight areas I cannot reach and do it in a fraction of the time. Only problem is I'm afraid its gonna melt my tupperware lower. Will report back after I use it for the first time....
Getting into the tiny crevices is definitely a problem. I'm almost wishing I had a spray of sorts, to let the pressure of the fluid work its way into the cracks and blow the dirt out. Can't really do that with Weapon Shield, so I've been going at it with the various brushes. I think I need to pick up some cleaning picks or something similar, for areas where my fingers just can't squeeze in. I'm trying to stay away from cotton swabs
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I use Simple Green... and a steamer... after that an air compressor... and then oil it.
Works well and it only uses electricity.
The steam cleaner also cleans the area after and that pleases my wife.
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I don't know about effectiveness of anything but Hoppes or Break Free, but to look at health effects and personal protection do a Google search for the product name + MSDS (material safety data sheet)
EG: WD40 + MSDS
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* Gunzilla contains no hazardous chemicals, is non flammable, and non-corrosive.
* Gunzilla removes carbon, copper, lead, rust, plastic fouling and cleans corrosive ammo.
* Gunzilla cleans carbon faster than traditional cleaners because it breaks the bond of the carbon molecules.
* Gunzilla does not evaporate.
* Gunzilla leaves a thin, slippery coating for lubrication and protection which reduces the collection of sand, dust and carbon when the gun is fired.
* Gunzilla has a natural smell (plants) and it can be used in the home without driving everyone else out of the house.
* Gunzilla removes old oils and previously applied cleaning solvents when cleaning.
* Gunzilla leaves a coating that once it is wiped dry is not effected by cold or hot temperatures. In the liquid form Gunzilla turns into a light grease.
* Gunzilla protects and displaces water on metal surfaces.
* Godzilla is a superior lubricant and many shooters are now using it for reloading.
* Gunzilla increases the number of rounds between cleanings.
* Gunzilla can be used on shotguns, rifles, handguns, automatic guns and muzzleloaders.
* Gunzilla eliminates the need to use water for cleaning and oil for protecting when used on a muzzleloader
* Gunzilla is very effective in cleaning shotgun choke tubes, stainless steel guns, and the AR-15 bolt area.
* Gunzilla is a superior protector because it removes the surface rust prior to the final coating.
* Gunzilla has No hazardous chemical charges for disposing of empty bottles or used patches in landfills.
* Gunzilla is the new gold standard for gun care and we are proving it daily as more and more customers try our product.
I use Hoppes #9, non chlorinated brake parts cleaner and breakfree or rem oil. Sometimes even foaming bore cleaner too. Wear rubber gloves if worried about chemical exposure and as said, a well ventilated space..
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