Protecting this forum from copyright trolls

Protecting this forum from copyright trolls

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    Protecting this forum from copyright trolls

    The $105 Fix That Could Protect You From Copyright-Troll Lawsuits

    Call it ingenious, call it evil or call it a little of both: Copyright troll Righthaven is exploiting a loophole in intellectual property law, suing websites that might have avoided any trace of civil liability had they spent a mere $105.

    That’s the fee for a blog or other website to register a DMCA takedown agent with the U.S. Copyright Office, an obscure bureaucratic prerequisite to enjoying a legal “safe harbor” from copyright lawsuits over third-party posts, such as reader comments.

    There’s no better time to become acquainted with that requirement

    More here:

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...aven-loophole/


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    That's interesting. Sounds like a good use of 105 bucks to avoid the hassle.
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    The media wants to have its cake and eat it, too. If news companies start charging for access to their websites, traffic will plunge and they won't be able to generate revenue from ad space sales. If they allow free access then traffic goes up, revenue goes up, but their content is in the open.
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    It's a damned shame that we have to do this kind of thing, but not a bad idea to keep from getting drug into court....
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    A company is suing other companies and people for copyright infringement? What's their legal standing that justifies their involvement at all, suing others they have nothing to do with?

    And, in the end, I can't see how spending $100 or whatever on a product or service can sidestep copyright. It'll still exist as a protection to the holder. A rose is a rose ... misuse is still misuse. Seems to me that, at least in the U.S., aggrieved parties can sue for damages if they have standing, unless barred from doing so. IANAL.
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    The members of this board have, for the most part, been doing an excellent job. Only a few haven't yet figured out what the fair-use guidelines are.

    For them, let's summarize:

    1. Link to source material, don't quote it.
    2. Summarize what's at the link.
    3. If you do quote, be sparing. A paragraph (2 or 3 sentences) is OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    A company is suing other companies and people for copyright infringement? What's their legal standing that justifies their involvement at all, suing others they have nothing to do with?
    They bought the newspaper, and now own the copyright.

    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    And, in the end, I can't see how spending $100 or whatever on a product or service can sidestep copyright. It'll still exist as a protection to the holder. A rose is a rose ... misuse is still misuse. Seems to me that, at least in the U.S., aggrieved parties can sue for damages if they have standing, unless barred from doing so. IANAL.
    The fee is to register a contact agent with the government for purposes of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. Basically, if you have registered under the DCMA, you cannot be successfully sued for copyright infringement until after the holder of that copyright had contacted the agent and demanded removal of the material.

    But if one does not have an agent registered under the DCMA, then the copyright holder can simply file suit without warning or demand.

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    The fee is to register a contact agent with the government for purposes of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. Basically, if you have registered under the DCMA, you cannot be successfully sued for copyright infringement until after the holder of that copyright had contacted the agent and demanded removal of the material.
    One would think the laws would simply require notification via contacting the copyright holder. Instead, we've allowed a government "membership" fee to be created that helps keep some bureaucrat clothed without improving anything. Wasteful, senseless. But then, that makes sense: it's the government we're speaking of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    One would think the laws would simply require notification via contacting the copyright holder. Instead, we've allowed a government "membership" fee to be created that helps keep some bureaucrat clothed without improving anything. Wasteful, senseless. But then, that makes sense: it's the government we're speaking of.
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    It's becoming the norm. Lots of forums are now enforcing links-only policies, ie TheHighRoad.org.

    It is about time. Copyrights are important. Holders generally work hard to develop their works. Simply pointing to it instead of lifting it in its entirety isn't hard to do. Small price to pay. And, it was really the intention of the original WWW, when it was designed, so that any changes to the underlying material would be automatically updated.

    Thanks for the efforts, Bumper & Crew. We love what you do.
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    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
    I totally stole that from another site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpwing View Post
    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
    I totally stole that from another site.
    That's ours anyway.
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    NRA, SAF, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.

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