In case you guys haven't noticed it, The Pres. has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stifle guns or ammo: NOTHING! SO give him a break, I'm a gun guy, an INDEPENDENT voter, and I don't hate the Pres. I didn't throw crap at him, so I'm really stymied as to why the Pres. gets all this, day after day. You guys better have aspirin on hand because Mitt hasn't got a chance. And if he succeeds, you can kiss goodbye to what once was the Middle Class!:icon_neutral:
I'll start a list and maybe others will finish it:
1.) Eric Holder - http://www.barackobama4us.com/88/bar...torney-general
2.) Greg Nickles - http://personalliberty.com/2010/09/2...y-2-800075446/
EDIT: Also for your viewing pleasure - http://www.goal.org/newspages/obama_2anews.html
And I guess you forget all the Bush guys who wound up in jail, indicted;left us with two wars and no money to pay for them. And I almost forgot, silly me, a financial collapse on his watch that almost took down the USA and, oh, did I forget to mention 9/11? How easy to forget that 9/11 happened on Bush's watch AFTER BEING WARNED that something was going to happen. So much for selective memory! You guys really do live in LaLa Land. I don't mean to get too personal; I would most likely like each and every one of you given a chance to meet. But you never give the Pres, a break and I find that very hard to understand. Even his predecessor got a break, now and then. Didn't he?:confused:
The reason why 9/11 happened was because the intel agencies, dod, and LE could not easily share information, if at all. I know. It was my job. So, unless you worked intel at various levels, and with different agencies for 22 years I suggest you leave your comments to yourself until you know what you are talking about.I think Bush was a terrible president. But if you post something you better get your facts straight. I am sick of this administration blaming everything on Bush. After 3 years he is now responsible.
If you want we can discuss about Iraq and WMDs' I am sure you have all the answers (which are most likely wrong)
Ever been in the military? What would you think of a new commander or First Sergeant that took over a company or squadron and the only thing he did when things did not go right was blame the former leader? I would think the man is a twit, has no leadership abilities.
Not to dog other services but I have had this conversation with folks from all branches. The army and marine guys I know agree with me about leadership. Or should I say we all agree on a leadership style. The Navy and AF folks I know thinnk it is OK to remind folks up and down the chain of command that they inherited a bad situation
My point precisely! Too many people have their minds already made up. Have you listened to Cheney lately? Blames Obama for almost everything wrong in the USA. Never takes responsibility for anything. Oh, and remember it was one of Bush's top guys who outed the CIA agent. So easy to forget that, isn't it! Well never agree on this, so enjoy the world without the Middle Class , but don't wake up one day and wonder what happened to this great country OF OURS.
P.S. And don't think a ruinous four years with a broken economy can be fixed in 3-4 years? Most top notch economists say it will take from 5-10 years to fix this mess. So, yes, I am going to blame Bush, Cheney and all their guys because this is NOT the military and the economy is a totally different ball of wax. Obama inherited a mess and, with the Republicans doing nothing else but all they can do to bring down the Pres., you are welcome to whatever we get from this: and it won't be good for ANY of us. So dislike the Pres. all you want.What are you willing to do to get us on a positive course?
Let me clarify a point I just made. When I was comparing services I did not mean to imply every Officer and NCO in the services have the same mentality. Just in my expereince with the AF and Navy they have a more corporate attitude toward leadership than the marines and army. There are fine leaders in all services and duds in others. And I have worked closely with all 4.
Obama ads or Romney ads...what's the difference? Last I checked this is a CC forum NOT the Republican right wing forum (as some believe it is) or the Democratic left wing forum so either ad should be welcome revenue.
Yo haven't addressed one point I made. The 9/11 part and the leadership part. So don;t say 'exactly again.
chain of command and responsibility with a system in which there are multiple players and responsibility is diffuse.
A president can't snap his fingers and change a law. He must obey existing law. He must follow through on prior international
commitments. He is hamstrung by both Congress and the Courts.
I don't care whether it was O over promising change, or Romney now over promising change, they will be hamstrung
by "what is" and that justifies blaming those who made "what is."
What bothers me is when someone post something about 9/11 and can not back up his claim. Opinions are fine. You and I agree and disgree sometimes. But at leaast you address a post directly.
Many of us have held positions where our predecessor screwed things up, and it can take years to correct things. Even at our level, most of us are professional enough to assume responsibility for our role and take on the job at hand, without constantly directing blame.
It reflects poorly on POTUS to not at least have this basic quality of character.