Minnesota residents can no longer carry concealed in North Dakota, period!

Minnesota residents can no longer carry concealed in North Dakota, period!

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    Minnesota residents can no longer carry concealed in North Dakota, period!

    Effective 8-1-13 Minnesota residents can no longer carry concealed in North Dakota, and ALL non-resident concealed carry permits are null and void if your state has no reciprocity with ND. This is regardless of whether you have any other non-resident permits recognized by North Dakota. If you are a Minnesota resident, or your state does not have reciprocity with ND, you CANNOT carry a concealed weapon in North Dakota, period! Minnesota legislators have repeatedly refused to answer North Dakota's requests for reciprocity so ND legislators played the game and the innocent victims are law-abiding, honest Minnesota residents & others with North Dakota non-resident concealed carry permits like me. I'm a former LEO and a ND non-resident permit holder for 20+ years. Our Minnesota liberal, do-nothing, anti-2nd Amendment, democrat legislature passed gay marriage and raised taxes sky high, but that's about all they did the last session. Now that I'm thinking about it, they haven't done anything for its citizens for many years except tax them to death.
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    Glad I will never be going to N Dakota.
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    As a Wisconsin resident, we have current reciprocity with ND, so going to ND is fine. Going to MN is not. Sucks to be a MN resident, but you got what you voted for. Happy Higher Taxes to the Land of 10K Lakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sliderbk View Post
    As a Wisconsin resident, we have current reciprocity with ND, so going to ND is fine. Going to MN is not. Sucks to be a MN resident, but you got what you voted for. Happy Higher Taxes to the Land of 10K Lakes.
    Agreed. It's not North Dakota that has the problem, it's the states that refuse to play nicely. As I understand it from Gary Slider's site, ND went the extra mile to create a 2-tiered CCW system to enable some measure of concealed carry privileges for the greatest number of non-residents.
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    I'm covered on both my cc permits. Looks like WI and Ut are still good. I've never been to ND, sounds like a good place to visit.
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    I can go to ND, but not Minn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sliderbk View Post
    As a Wisconsin resident, we have current reciprocity with ND, so going to ND is fine. Going to MN is not. Sucks to be a MN resident, but you got what you voted for. Happy Higher Taxes to the Land of 10K Lakes.
    I sure as hell didn't vote for these clowns.
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    ND is VERY gun friendly. They were going to drop the need for CCW a few years ago, but, realized that the CCW allowed for residents to carry in other states. Here we can own suppressors and full auto weapons with the tax stamp. Try that in MN. There has always been bad blood between ND and MN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyAirdale View Post
    Effective 8-1-13 Minnesota residents can no longer carry concealed in North Dakota, and ALL non-resident concealed carry permits are null and void if your state has no reciprocity with ND. This is regardless of whether you have any other non-resident permits recognized by North Dakota. If you are a Minnesota resident, or your state does not have reciprocity with ND, you CANNOT carry a concealed weapon in North Dakota, period! Minnesota legislators have repeatedly refused to answer North Dakota's requests for reciprocity so ND legislators played the game and the innocent victims are law-abiding, honest Minnesota residents & others with North Dakota non-resident concealed carry permits like me. I'm a former LEO and a ND non-resident permit holder for 20+ years. Our Minnesota liberal, do-nothing, anti-2nd Amendment, democrat legislature passed gay marriage and raised taxes sky high, but that's about all they did the last session. Now that I'm thinking about it, they haven't done anything for its citizens for many years except tax them to death.

    I am a MN resident with a MN permit to carry and just took my Utah class and should have the permit soon.
    From the ND Attorney General website:
    "RECIPROCAL STATES: North Dakota concealed weapons licenses are recognized in the following states and a valid concealed weapon license issued by any state listed below is recognized in North Dakota, so long as the weapon is carried in accordance with North Dakota’s laws."

    I also spoke with 2 instructors for the Utah permit class which they teach in Fargo ND. It seems one of the main purposes they teach this every 2 weeks is for MN residents to carry in ND. THey suggested I take this class for this very purpose.

    After reading the ND law I found it unclear if you can in fact carry in ND as a MN resident with a MN + Utah permit.
    "62.1-04-03.1. Reciprocity.
    A person who has a valid license issued by another state to carry a concealed firearm or
    dangerous weapon in that state and whose state grants to residents of this state the right to
    carry a concealed firearm or dangerous weapon issued by that state may carry, subject to the
    provisions of this state's law, a concealed firearm or dangerous weapon in this state, and the
    other state's license is valid in this state."


    Now to interpret this as the scenario of a MN resident with a UTAH permit:

    "62.1-04-03.1. Reciprocity.
    A person who has a valid license issued by another state (Utah) to carry a concealed firearm or
    dangerous weapon in that state (Utah) and whose state (Utah) grants to residents of this state (ND)the right to
    carry a concealed firearm or dangerous weapon issued by that state (Utah) may carry, subject to the
    provisions of this state's (ND) law, a concealed firearm or dangerous weapon in this state (ND), and the
    other state's (ND) license is valid in this state."


    I guess to play it safe I could just not carry in ND, but then again to play is safe I could not carry at all which would likely happen as I cross the boarder almost every day.
    After going though the process of getting a pistol, permits and hundreds of dollars later, it makes me thankful for all those who go through this process to make this a safer place (at least for non-criminals).

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