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This is a discussion on Political Threads within the Forum News, Feedback, Problems & Comments forums, part of the DefensiveCarry.com Forum Office category; Originally Posted by RayBar I would think that politics has everything to do with firearms ownership. Since it will be politics that decide wheather or ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayBar View Post
    I would think that politics has everything to do with firearms ownership. Since it will be politics that decide wheather or not we can buy,own, use,carry, build,repair,or anything else you can think of that involves firearms or ammunition. It will be politics that decide if sites like this one are in the publics best interest. How the H can you seperate politics and guns. Thats like telling us that we can talk about the fish but not the water they live in.

    And yet we've had this policy in place since 2004 and gotten along just fine. This is not a new concept on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    Hmmm, Sounds good to me....
    I'm glad you agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattmann View Post
    I'm kind of on this boat with all due respect. I mean guns and the government are hand and hand. And by the religion statement, am I wrong in assuming I can't brag about what my God has done for me and the blessings I have in my life without a warning? I don't understand this. Please clarify? Doesnt the 2a pretty much say we have the right to bare arms to defend against a tyrannical government??

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    Yes it does. But the terms of service of which every member has agreed to abide by are clear on the matter of religion and politics on this forum. No non-2A related politics, and no topics based solely on religion, there is some lee-way on religion in Terry & Bob's place and topics directly related to carry etc. such as carry in church and ethical/moral issues related to the taking of human lives.

    As for tyrannical government, that's exactly what the 2A is for. If you are complaining of censorship on this forum I will point out the following section of the forum rules (which you agreed to on July 3rd, 2011)

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    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

    The First Amendment is greatly respected here, as are all other Amendments that the Second Amendment defends. We are, however, a privately owned venture and as such, your freedom of speech does not grant you a right to post anything you may wish to say on this forum. These rules are a contract you agree to when you become a member of this forum and members are expected to adhere to them. Those who err cannot complain about censorship, or a perceived loss of first amendment rights. If you do not like our rules or feel you cannot follow them, seek out a new venue to frequent, or start your own.

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    Again, these rules and policies are nothing new and predate many of the join dates of new members. Big election years always bring out the "worst" in our members regarding the posting of prohibited political content. Some members just "forget" what they agreed to abide by and sometimes we have to "remind" them of these policies.

    In addition, Bumper is no longer the owner of this forum. 4Nines, Bman505, FFAdmin, and other administrators from QK and myself represent the owners of this forum. If you do not like this policy as enacted you may take it up with them, but I will say that they are aware of of rules and policies and thus have not made any changes to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Yes it does. But the terms of service of which every member has agreed to abide by are clear on the matter of religion and politics on this forum. No non-2A related politics, and no topics based solely on religion, there is some lee-way on religion in Terry & Bob's place and topics directly related to carry etc. such as carry in church and ethical/moral issues related to the taking of human lives.

    As for tyrannical government, that's exactly what the 2A is for. If you are complaining of censorship on this forum I will point out the following section of the forum rules (which you agreed to on July 3rd, 2011)




    Again, these rules and policies are nothing new and predate many of the join dates of new members. Big election years always bring out the "worst" in our members regarding the posting of prohibited political content. Some members just "forget" what they agreed to abide by and sometimes we have to "remind" them of these policies.

    In addition, Bumper is no longer the owner of this forum. 4Nines, Bman505, FFAdmin, and other administrators from QK and myself represent the owners of this forum. If you do not like this policy as enacted you may take it up with them, but I will say that they are aware of of rules and policies and thus have not made any changes to them.
    10-4 boss man. Have some thinking to do. I must have mistaken this forum a little possibly by reading to quickly through the rules here. If i am not allowed to post comments about how great my god is, not sure I want to be a part of it. Thanks for your prompt response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattmann View Post
    10-4 boss man. Have some thinking to do. I must have mistaken this forum a little possibly by reading to quickly through the rules here. If i am not allowed to post comments about how great my god is, not sure I want to be a part of it. Thanks for your prompt response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIBMike View Post
    Ever thought about creating a hi intensity type area where political and other high temp subjects can be discussed.A sub forum where you have to ask to become involved and take responsibility for your posts.You could keep the arguments,debates and divisivness contained in one messy box.If an individual wants to become involved the would have a clear understanding of what they are in for.Just something to consider.
    I believe the type of forum you are referring to is available here: Conservative Stronghold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    Just no cursing or name calling..OK? It MUST be civil discussion.
    I wouldn't have a problem with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    I believe the type of forum you are referring to is available here: Conservative Stronghold
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    I believe the type of forum you are referring to is available here: Conservative Stronghold
    Looks like that could be interesting msgt, i was thinking that much of what is discussed on this forum is deeply intertwined with politics in general.I understand why the rule exists,but it is very difficult to seperate politics from many of the topics.A seperate area would possibly reduce the workload for the mods.Instead of running around and stamping out small fires ,many of which are unintentional,everthing would be contained in one area.Like i said just a thought i am new here and i have no intention of trying to push the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    THanks for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    I think MacAfee may be in error in advising that it is a suspicious site. I have had no problems and Norton has never given a warning. And IIRC the site is a spin-off from defensivecarry.com.
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    Agree. Especially since 2A discussions will be allowed. Besides my CC options and views, I am especially concerned for 2A discussion - at an adult level.

    I will note though, that a lot of the 2A discussion is ignored here. I rationalize that in the fact that the majority of the members of this Forum are living in states where they do not see the threat against 2A 'stepping directly on thier necks' yet.

    This is a great and expertly well run Forum for the discussion of CC and realted Defensive Carry issues.

    Thank you for running a tight ship.

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    As an FYI, I asked some of the owners for their take on politics and get this from FFAdmin

    ...in regards to Political discussions, I am all for the keeping the current policy of zero-tolerance w/ the exception of allowing only 2A related politics. Allowing political discussion will ruin these boards. That is a fact. Direct people to our sister site if they want to discuss politics (US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum). You want to see what happens when politics are discussed head over there :) it's CRAZY and out of control.
    As previously stated, if you want to talk politics (outside of 2A issues) do so either at Conservative Stronghold, or the forum linked in the above quote.

    As for suggestions regarding a seperate sub forum here, it won't happen.


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