This is a discussion on 2010 Census within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by jca1
I'm sick of the gubment throwing our money around like candy wrappers.
I know what you mean.
Nobody suckin' on the ...
March 18th, 2010 07:36 AM
I know what you mean.
Originally Posted by jca1
Nobody suckin' on the gravy seems to mind, and none seem to really listen. No matter how lucid the argument, direct the questions, or seemingly disgusting and vapid their answers. We're gonna get what we'll get, and it ain't gonna be pretty. That much is true.
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self defense (A.O.J.).
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the number of victims?
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March 18th, 2010 06:37 PM
I tossed mine. I filled out my taxes. They already know everything about me. If they can't figure that much out, then they don't deserve to know.
March 18th, 2010 07:36 PM
March 18th, 2010 08:34 PM
Here in AZ they are trying to make sure all the illegals get to fill out their census.
The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. Albert Einstein
"People in Arizona carry guns," said a Chandler police spokesman. "You better be careful about who you are picking on."
March 18th, 2010 11:07 PM
There was not a single question about citizenship or legal status on the form I got. I don't know where you got the idea that they want to know "how many illegals live in your home." I hope that was tongue in cheek.
Originally Posted by CraigStill
I did find their one question on race odd. They seem to have confused national origin and ethnicity with race.
Overall, a big improvement from the past.
March 19th, 2010 12:56 AM
Why the race questions?
If I am white and 200 years ago my ancestors came from South Africa am I an African American?
I marked other and put American.
March 19th, 2010 03:06 AM
We discussed this in Biological Anthropology this week, Hispanics are not a race it's a reference to linguistic background. Meaning you came from a country that speaks spanish.
Originally Posted by joker1
Furthermore the concept of race is completely outdated, from a biological standpoint, there is no significant difference between people of different backgrounds, that is there are no subspecies of homo-sapiens.
I find the whole "race" question to be offensive. Especially when you look at the diversity of answers given to the various "races" (ie all the option under "asian") yet "white" people are ONLY classified by the color of their skin. Even further most options given under "race" speak to nationality of origin, only "white" and "black" are actual references to the so called "race".
Why does the Government keep trying to segregate and classify people based on intangible factors? So much for progress I guess.
When only cops have guns, it's called a "police state". Love your country, but never trust its government.
-- Robert A. Heinlein.
March 19th, 2010 03:24 AM
that is what i thought nothing they didn't already know
March 19th, 2010 04:10 PM
Trust in God and keep your powder dry
"A heavily armed citizenry is not about overthrowing the government; it is about preventing the government from overthrowing liberty. A people stripped of their right of self defense is defenseless against their own government." -source
March 19th, 2010 04:33 PM
I thought we were supposed to be working toward being a 'color-blind society'.
The census shows that our government wants nothing of that concept.
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March 19th, 2010 04:49 PM
I have no problems answering a Constitutionally mandated census. If you have a Social Security number everybody already knows your secrets.
March 19th, 2010 04:53 PM
Originally Posted by zacii
Also, how stupid is our government that they have to ask BOTH my age and DOB? I practiced civil disobedience and jsut gave them the less intrusive off the two.
March 19th, 2010 11:22 PM
Originally Posted by 55spartan
Nowhere on the Census does it ask for your SSN. It is not addressed to you, it is only addressed "To Resident At", so yes it is information they do not already know.
Originally Posted by jhh3rd
The government in general may know most or all of this info about you, and some of it may be with one agency and some with another, but the Census Agency itself doesn't already know this information.
Some of this information I feel leads to/is used for prejudice polices and some of it I feel is none of their business. I have no problem with the Census bureau getting a count of Americans per area, but that's all they should need to designate Representatives and tax funds. They do not need personal information to do this and they do not need Race or Origin questions. The Census should be 3 or 4 questions at most. How many legal Citizens live at this address and what are the age groups of these citizens would address the enumeration issue for representatives and tax funds purposes.
And BTW, everyone who has already sent the Census back in has answered a couple questions untruthfully. The question ask how many people live or stayed in your residence on April 1, 2010. Since this date has not arrived, you have no way of knowing for sure and thus could not of answered truthfully, only guessed/assumed that things wouldn't have changed.
March 20th, 2010 03:33 AM
I asked and was informed that any information I put down was confidential. They told me there was no way of identifying me from my form I send in. Then I asked them how they would know who to fine if I chose not to answer some questions.
Originally Posted by ccw9mm
They just gave me the "look".
March 20th, 2010 10:05 AM
Me too. I answered question #1 and enclosed the following:
Originally Posted by JAT40
Some interpret "in such Manner as they shall by Law direct" as permission to gain personal, private information which they have no constitutional authority to do. I believe it means they may obtain the count in what manner the law directs; door to door, mail, carrier pigeon, smoke signals etc.
Article I, Section 2 of our constitution reads: "The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."
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