Glock 36 dual spring recoil system / and G-36 recoil

Glock 36 dual spring recoil system / and G-36 recoil

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    Glock 36 dual spring recoil system / and G-36 recoil

    I just read that the dual spring recoil system "may be touchy with soft target ammo". (it was just a short blurb in the Gun Digest book of Glock (great book btw).

    What exactly would that mean, any comments from G-36 shooters on that?

    How does the G-36 recoil compare to the G-19? It is hard to find a 36 to shoot.

    Thanks in advance.

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    I haven't had any failures in my G36 with target or defensive ammo. I've run both WWB and Monarch FMJ through it without a hitch. Comparing the G36 to a G19 is kind of hard as one is a .45 and the other a 9mm. It will definitely have more push than a G19. A better comparison is the G36 and a Sig P220 Compact. They are about the same size. The Sig has a single recoil spring (non-captioned). The Sig is a bit heavier (aluminum frame and a heavier slide). The recoil on the Glock is actually a bit lighter on the Glock than on the Sig. Not much, but it is noticeable. I think the recoil difference has as much to do with a lower bore axis as with the dual recoil springs.
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    Was the dual recoil spring system put in mainly as a recoil control, or for what other reason?

    The action works the same to the user as a regular DAO Glock, right?

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    The action works the same to the user as a regular DAO Glock, right?
    Exactly. I consider the recoil on the G 36 to be more of a "push" than the "snap" from my 9 mm Glocks (a G 26). Very similar though. On a felt recoil scale, I'd say the G 19 would be softer than the 26, and a G 17 softer than a 19 (barrel length and weight).......... I think Exodus hit a good point here too:

    I think the recoil difference has as much to do with a lower bore axis as with the dual recoil springs.


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    While I've never tried any "mouse flatus" light loads in my G36, I've never had an issue with the usual over the counter .45 FMJ range loads out there...

    And my carry load is a 230+P, and I don't find the recoil intolerable at all, nor do I feel it has any great impact on control/recovery. In fact, for it's size and weight, I've found the G36 must more pleasant to shoot than comparably sized/weighted .45's (Officer's 1911, Sig P245).
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    Thanks all.

    Would "touchy" mean prone to jams? Or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cammo girl View Post
    Thanks all.

    Would "touchy" mean prone to jams? Or what?
    I think the author was referring to lightly loaded target/competition ammo. Many competitive shooters hand-load their ammo as lightly as possible to get the gun to cycle, thus reducing recoil for the fastest possible follow-up shots. Some of the loads do not have the power to reliably cycle the G36. Standard factory ammo (range or SD) should have no problems at all.

    The double recoil spring in the G36 (and the new Gen4 models) makes it a very light recoiling .45acp. It is a toss up which is faster for me, G19 or G36.
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    I have never had any problems with my Glock-36, and it seems to shoot any factory ammo I use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRunner71 View Post
    I think the author was referring to lightly loaded target/competition ammo. Many competitive shooters hand-load their ammo as lightly as possible to get the gun to cycle, thus reducing recoil for the fastest possible follow-up shots. Some of the loads do not have the power to reliably cycle the G36.
    Ah. OK, I get it. Like trainer trap loads in my 20 ga. pump.

    Again, thanks. Slowly but surely I am getting this.

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    haven't shot the gen 4 yet, and maybe i had a bad apple, but it seemed to me that my 36's recoil was, well, a tad harsh. i shoot .45 all day with no problem. it seemed like the slide wanted to completely jump off the frame, and muzzle flip was a little extreme too. these are not handloads - i don't run handloads through any of my glocks - but standard 230 FMJ target loads. i never expereienced any problem with FTF or anything like that. the glock wants to shoot.

    maybe i got a bad recoil spring setup. who knows.
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    The G36 has always had a dual recoil spring assembly, and I don't think it's has a problem with factory ammo; heavy, light, or otherwise. I think it's part of the reason the .45 has a softer "push" than other calibers.

    The .40 and 9mms of the Gen 4 have gone to the dual spring, and there are reportedly some feed issues in the 9mms with it using low-powered ammo. While it seems to have helped some G22 issues, it may be causing some 9mm issues. I'm sure Glock will get them ironed out if so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    The recoil on the Glock is actually a bit lighter on the Glock than on the Sig. Not much, but it is noticeable. I think the recoil difference has as much to do with a lower bore axis as with the dual recoil springs.
    Thanks - just read up on bore axis. Much to learn.

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    Not a problem CG. As your well aware, this is a great place to learn.

    A couple thoughts:

    The G36 isn't like the other subcompact Glocks. All of the mags have an extended baseplate. I've got medium size hands for a guy and don't have any trouble getting all my fingers on the gun. With the mag in, it's about the same size in the grip as an officer's size 1911. I'd wager that if you can handle the recoil of an officer's size 1911, you could handle a G36. That might be easier to find to try out, too.

    How old was the gun digest? The G36 had some problems back when it was new. It could have been old information. Or, really soft target ammo.

    Final thought (for now, at least).

    If you do get a G36, be sure to get a slug plug for it. 38728 - Glock 36 Slug Plug

    It fills in the hole in the bottom of the grip behind the magwell. It also extends the grip to the length of the floorplate of the mag. Makes it much easier to drop and insert a mag, and greatly reduces the chance of pinching the heal of your hand in between the mag and the gun.
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    Thanks. Yes, I saw that in the book/mag too, they called it a Seattle Slug I think.

    It is the everything about Glock softcover book. I got it from the library, it looked brand new.

    I've recently shot a stainless Cogan Custom 1911 style 45. It's like a drop of water fell on your hand when you shoot it. Probably not a good comparison but I could probably find a better one as you indicate.

    I'm old and have all the itis'es in mostly my shooting hand and wrist so felt recoil can be a problem with the wrong gun or too many rounds.

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    lightweight pistol + dual recoil springs + light target load (+ loose grip) = jam

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