Chicago Lawmakers - "Call in the National Guard" (Merged)

[WhoWeBePart1]

CHICAGO (AP) — Two Illinois lawmakers say violence has become so rampant in Chicago that the National Guard must be called in to help.

Chicago Democratic Reps. John Fritchey and LaShawn Ford made a public plea to Gov. Pat Quinn on Sunday to deploy troops.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/25...cago-violence/

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[kdydak]

They ran the place into the ground and now they call on military to bail them out. Military intervention failed in Mexico and it will fail in US too. For now (thankfully) the answer is a no, but for how long ?

FOXNews.com - Lawmakers: Military could quell Chicago violence

Two Illinois lawmakers say violence has become so rampant in Chicago that the National Guard must be called in to help.

Chicago Democratic Reps. John Fritchey and LaShawn Ford made a public plea to Gov. Pat Quinn on Sunday to deploy troops.

The request comes amid a recent surge in violent crime, including a night last week that saw seven people killed and 18 wounded, mostly by gunfire.

Fritchey says Chicago has had 113 homicide victims this year. He says the police department has done a commendable job, but its resources are stretched thin.

Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis says he appreciates the lawmakers' frustration and willingness to help, but doubts the National Guard is the best answer.

[Deuce130]

OR....we can allow law-abiding citizens to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights to defend themselves. At the very least it would free up the police to focus on the most hard-pressed neighborhoods in Chicago.

[Bark'n]

You get what you elect. It's hard to have sympathy for the people of Chicago.

I understand there are great people there who support and defend the constitution, but they are in the minority and are stuck with massive political corruption.

[Holger]

NG troops would have no arrest powers, no enforcement authority, and most likely a very convoluted ROE under which to operate. So...what happens when a member of the Gangster Disciples or Latin Kings isn't intimidated by the Guard presence (which is the real goal) and kills a Guardsman? What then? Who is going to pay for the mobilization? Do they expect to man this with Guard volunteers? Without a mobilization, the Guard operates on a voluntary basis. Here's a good one: Everyone who wants to walk around the South Side without a gun and no ability to arrest gangbangers, raise your hand! <crickets>

This whole idea is stupid. Chicago has, oh, about a 1000 alternatives to try before it gets to this point. Unfortunately, all those alternatives require common sense and actual leadership, of which the city is entirely bereft.

[Bark'n]

Thread is already running here: Chicago politicians calling for military police

[Adameeski]

Sounds like their anti-gun laws are working!(Insert sarcastic laughter)

[NC Bullseye]

They need to outlaw civility. Maybe they'd have as much luck with that.

[WhoWeBePart1]

I had mine posted first. So I had no clue someone else created another.

His - 10:44 PM

Mine - 10:38 PM

[sniper58]

OR....we can allow law-abiding citizens to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights to defend themselves. At the very least it would free up the police to focus on the most hard-pressed neighborhoods in Chicago.

Great idea, but it's futile to interject logic into a liberal and/or government fantasy.

[Bark'n]

Sorry... I didn't notice the time stamp. My mistake.

Often it's hard to keep track when the same threads get posted under different forums... ie, one under "In the news" and the other under "Law Enforcement, Military and Homeland Security"

It happens

[WhoWeBePart1]

I posted the same information a few minutes prior to this thread but since it has taken off here. Let's keep it here.

Thank you Grady and Bark'n

EDIT: Mod merged it and all is good.

[goldshellback]

My question is what do those yahoo's expect from getting a military presense there? What's the NG expected to do? Suspend the rights of ALL the citizens there and declare martial law?

"Papers please....."

[DukeShooter]

Boy, now here's why there is a need for more armed citizens...In the news this morning and from other news, ammoland.com and other sources the last couple of days:

"Two state lawmakers from Chicago want help from the National Guard to fight crime, with the Murder Rate in Chicago already exceeding 100 murders for the year. From Thursday evening to the wee hours of Friday morning, Chicago police responded to 22 people shot,15 wounded and 7 killed. In a comment from Mayor Daley he did not mention the low number of officers on the street and blamed the shootings on the lack of gun control. " What a crock of bull puckey!

"If Governor Pat Quinn decides to deploy the Guard, residents can expect the concentrated deployments to begin May 1."

How can lack of gun control be the problem? Aren't guns banned in Chicago? The city’s answer to this bloodbath is a system of more than 10,000 cameras to invade its citizens’ privacy and watch the effects of its draconian gun laws that render citizens helpless. Cameras only serve to give citizens a false sense of security because many people assume criminals won’t commit crimes while under surveillance. Cameras? How can a camera respond to a crime in progress? Document your murder so that if caught the murderer will be convicted? This is utter nonsense.

Will the NG be able to quell the violence? I don't think so! What a need for concealed carry!

This is really sad: The State of Illinois doesn’t allow legal concealed carry for law abiding citizens, and in Chicago keeping a gun for home defense is also illegal. City residents can only hope that the U.S. Supreme Court will rule in favor of the right to bear arms and overturn the longtime ban on firearms ownership.

Mike
Armed Citizen, Peace Out!

[OldVet]

If the real militia was armed, maybe Chi., wouldn't have this problem.