Now we know how the SS secures a room for an unannounced visit

This is a discussion on Now we know how the SS secures a room for an unannounced visit within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by El Fish So why do you think the SS doesn't trust people with guns around the VP? You know what's dumber than ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Fish View Post
    So why do you think the SS doesn't trust people with guns around the VP?

    You know what's dumber than doing what they do now?

    Just assuming that everyone with a gun is safe and responsible.

    Or is this about dislike for Democrats and not at all a reasonable attempt to understand security for people who might be attacked?

    It's dislike for being search W/out PC I'm an American I don't have to put up W/ that period

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Search or no search, I would still leave. I have no desire to be in the same room.
    +1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantes View Post
    Everytime I see that picture I laugh. The bolt on the UZI is forward therefore the gun is pretty much useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertac45 View Post
    When V.P. Chaney gave a speech at the NRA Convention, no one was disarmed.
    I guess that one wasn't in N. Carolina!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertac45 View Post
    When V.P. Chaney gave a speech at the NRA Convention, no one was disarmed.
    Maybe the guy has a little more respect and intestinal fortitude than the average VP.

    Although I'm sure his SS detail went flippin nuts about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob99VMI04 View Post
    Everytime I see that picture I laugh. The bolt on the UZI is forward therefore the gun is pretty much useless.
    I see two possibilities. One, he was just deploying the gun as he had not completely unfolded the stock and had yet not worked the bolt. Two, IIRC, there were some later closed bolt FA models.

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    What Sixto and Janq said.
    Trust in God and keep your powder dry

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    No surprise here.

    Whenever the Prez (or other SS protected individuals) goes somewhere, that immediate area beomes federally-controlled property and subject to Federal laws, which can (and often does) include search and seizure.
    I've heard this before, but can anybody cite any laws that actually state this? I can't find any.

    And I agree with others, I also have no desire to be in the same room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    I couldn't agree more, but you may be surprised just how many of your rights can quickly be suspended by the SS (strange sound of letters, eh? reminds me of another group) if you are in their 'territory'...they act now and answer your questions later. Oooops, sorry, sir...here's your rights back!
    You are absolutely right, sad, but true.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    But it's hard to argue your point when your face is mashed into the floor and an Uzi's pressed against your skull. Sometimes it's the right time to make a point, sometimes not. With the Secret Service, it's generally not. No sense of humor in that bunch.
    Could not agree more.

    Quote Originally Posted by ak56 View Post
    I've heard this before, but can anybody cite any laws that actually state this? I can't find any.

    And I agree with others, I also have no desire to be in the same room.
    They are above the law.

    I was at Galaxy Aviation in Palm Beach International, waiting for my passengers. I didn't know then VP Cheney was coming and the govmnt uses the same FBO.
    The SS swarmed the place, checked everybody, we were told to stay in place or leave with our car. One of my good buddies who had an office upstairs was itching to use his laser pointer on Cheney when he would walk in, told him BAD IDEA.
    When my passengers came in, 4 lawyers going to Talahassee for a hearing, we were told we couldn't go to the airplane, we had to wait an hour or so; one of the lawyers tried to argue with the chief of the SS detail, to absolutely no avail; not happy
    That was during President Bush time so I am not prejudiced, but I can tell you, your rights are "suspended" around the SS, legal or not, they don't give a hoot, really, they have the numbers and the firepower, you don't.
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    The Secret Service's approach is: We're in control and you can make an issue of it later.

    Considering the importance of their job, no matter who is in office, and that none of us ever have to deal with it on a regular basis--if ever--I can deal with it. The alternative is no security and we know where that would lead.

    As jfl presented, they give you an option: Stay and behave--or leave. Fairly simple.
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    I remember when the SS entered the emergency room prior to Reagan being brought in after he was wounded. a person waiting in the ER said some people came in,said they are the Secret Service and to get out now. he said nobody moved, they pulled their weapons and said again, "Get out!", and people then got up and left.
    Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, where the heck is the ceiling.

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