OD Colt ? ~ 1911 Slide German Markings ????

OD Colt ? ~ 1911 Slide German Markings ????

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    OD Colt ? ~ 1911 Slide German Markings ????

    CombatCarry kinda frowns on linking directly to auction pages but, I'll link to this one for now & use the Ebay pictures....for now only.

    Then as you folks add information on this slide...maybe.
    I DO have the Ebay Pics saved to my 'puter & I'll upload those pictures to the forum gallery & then delete the references to Ebay and the auction link in the very near future. Then we'll just have an interesting thread on an unusual 1911 slide with our own photos.
    Sounds good to me.

    SO...........What is the scoop/story on this particular 1911 slide???
    I know that the Germans produced some Colt Pattern 1911 pistols during the war era but, wouldn't they be Nazi proofed?
    I really don't know much about non Colt Colts.
    I'm not thinking about buying this although the price is right...for any slide now.
    My curiousity is peaked on this item though.
    This does not look like a German slide to me.

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    i don't know anything about it but cant wait to see what Everyone comes up with

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    I do know some occupied countrys were producing a basicly 1911 clone ( norway comes to mind for some reason ) iirc some details were different on cosmetics ( a dropped slidestop , and i belive for a short run a dropped safety a-la brown or whoeaver that put the lever on the safety mid way down the faceing ) so i would speculate that this slide may be a part of ww2 european history LOL
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    Fascinating find there QK - I shall await OD's input.
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    Not sure about that slide, but for a time in 1945 some Colts were made under Nazi contract. They were refered to as the 1914 and had a lowered and extended slide reliece.

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    They were refered to as the 1914 and had a lowered and extended slide reliece.
    No, those were the Norwegians.






    Got It OD Thanks! for posting it! QKShooter

    The few pistol produced under Nazi occupation were referred to as Pistole 657(n) "n" meaning Norway. There were a total of only 8,223 numbered pistols produced under Nazi occupation.

    but for a time in 1945
    They were produced in 1940, '41, '42 and 1945.

    I have no idea what a RAPP pistol is, it's not one of the Nazi pieces?

    Thanks QK, interesting piece, hope to find out more about it.
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    Damm OD that is exacly the pistol i tried to describe , not saying the slide was part of one , just the only period european .45 that i personaly knew of lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD
    No, those were the Norwegians.
    Yes, but for a short time after the Nazi's invaded norway, there were like you said 8,000 and some odd 1914's produced between '41 and '45. But about 7,000 or so were produced without markings, and only 1,000 or so had the Nazi eagle markings on them and they were produced in 1945 only.
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    Yes, but for a short time after the Nazi's invaded norway, there were like you said 8,000 and some odd 1914's produced, but unlike the regular 1914's they had the Nazi proofs.
    Yes but, if you were to contact a collector for a Nazi 1911, which would you ask for, a Norwegian or a Pistole 657(n)? They maybe the same to you, they're not to collectors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD
    Yes but, if you were to contact a collector for a Nazi 1911, which would you ask for, a Norwegian or a Pistole 657(n)? They maybe the same to you, they're not to collectors.
    reread my edit

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    I Tried Google Searching

    RAPP 1911 slide - .45 pistol slide RAPP - & got Nada AKA nothing.

    The doggone thing cannot be that unusual.

    I sure have never seen that marking before though.

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    But about 7,000 or so were produced without markings,
    The pistols assembled in 1941 & 1942 were not stamped with German inspection stamps. In 1945 Oberfuher Neumann's initials were moved to the left side of the Waffenamt marked pistols, an unknown number of pistols above serial number 30534 were assembled without the Waffenamt markings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glockman17
    reread my edit
    What I stated would still apply, there is a difference in the pistols.
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    Question Another Question For OD

    Is it still possible to still find a Slide Release AKA Slide Stop like the one shown in your photo?

    Neat!

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    Thank you QK.

    The picture actually belongs to a Norwegian collector that goes by the handle Balder . Just to give credit were credit is due.
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