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    Now that NYS considers this a firearm I guess it's ok to post here...

    My new RWS Model 56 in .22 cal. It is an absolutely wonderful air rifle and I have already taken an adult woodchuck at 35 yards (headshot). Made in Germany. It is showing 930 fps through the chronometer w/ 16.1 grain JSB dome tops. The Redfield scope and Millett Angle-Loc rings dress this classic out nicely. Click the DEC link for the new law enacted 3/17/10. www.airgunsofarizona.com

    http://www.dec.ny.gov/regulations/57971.html






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    Not a firearm by definition in FL. Amazing how the firearm laws are so liberal in FL, which is composed of 90% NY refugees.
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    What do you think of your new production Redfield scope? I put a 4x12 on my new Remington 700 SPS, to hold me over until I can afford something top of the line, and thus far have been pretty impressed with it, especially given the price point for them.

    That air rifle appears to have the potential for lots of fun.
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    Now that's a BB gun!
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    Is that one of those that can be filled from a SCUBA tank?

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    No, it is not a PCP rifle (Pre Charged Pneumatic). This rifle is a single shot side cocker. The PCP rifles are very nice too. My next air gun will be the Benjamin (Made by Crosman) Marauder PCP w/ regulator in .25 cal. It will throw a 25 grain pellet 950fps. You get about 25 full power shots per 3000 psi fill. You can actually get about 40 shots but the POI changes after about 25 shots. You fill it with a scuba tank or you can use a special Benjamin hand pump (not a bicycle pump). The .25 will dispatch a fox or even a coyote. I think they cost about $439 for the Marauder and about $150 for a scuba tank and another $100 for the fill regulator. http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/BenjaminPCP.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    Now that's a BB gun!
    Thanks pgrass, that is sort of a compliment and an insult all wrapped into one! BB Gun...Hmmmmph

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckeyeLCPL View Post
    What do you think of your new production Redfield scope? I put a 4x12 on my new Remington 700 SPS, to hold me over until I can afford something top of the line, and thus far have been pretty impressed with it, especially given the price point for them.

    That air rifle appears to have the potential for lots of fun.
    I love it. Clear and sturdy enough to hold up to the pounding of the most powerful spring-air rifle you can buy. This gun pounds scopes harder than a shotgun or high-powered rifle. The recoil goes both forward and back. Many scopes will not hold up to the pounding of a springer. I feel the Redfield is every bit as good as a Leupold VX-II or a Bushnell Elite 3200 series scope for a lot less $$$. I also like the simplicity of it. Very well made.

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    Click the DEC link for the new law enacted 3/17/10.

    http://www.dec.ny.gov/regulations/57971.html
    INAL but the way I read the law is that it now legalizes the use of an airgun for taking game. Great looking rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    INAL but the way I read the law is that it now legalizes the use of an airgun for taking game. Great looking rifle.
    The term "airgun" shall mean any implement which by the force of a spring, air or other non-ignited compressed gas expels a missile or projectile and has a rifled or smooth barrel, using ammunition no smaller than .17 caliber, producing projectile velocities of not less than 600 feet per second. For the purposes of the Fish and Wildlife Law, an implement meeting the above specifications shall be considered a firearm or gun, and may be used to take protected wildlife whenever such protected wildlife may legally be taken with a rimfire rifle.

    Subdivision (b) and (c) of 6 NYCRR section 180.3 are renumbered subdivision (c) and (d), respectively.


    Unfortunately, I am a lawyer. Aside from that handicap I read the provision as a redefinition of what characteristics constitute a firearm in NY. The NY legislature appears to have reclassified air powered weapons that propel a projectile at speeds of 600fps or greater while at the same time allowing the use of those rifles/pistols to take game that could be taken with rimfire. The NY legislature gives and the NY legislature takes. The biggest problem in this state is they tend to take about 5x more than they give.

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