This is a discussion on Need recommendations on a gun safe within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I am on a limited budget, but I would like to get something that will hold all of my handguns and long guns. Here's the ...
I am on a limited budget, but I would like to get something that will hold all of my handguns and long guns.
Here's the inventory:
- NEF Pardner 12 Ga
- HiPoint 9mm Carbine in an ATI stock
- Savage Model 64 .22
- Ruger Mark III 22/45
- HiPoint 9mm
- Makarov 9X18
- Walther PPS 9mm
I am looking to discourage any would-be thieves from taking them so something that can be anchored is preferred.
My budget is not huge, so the extravagant "boxspring as a gun safe" safe's are out. Think more along the lines of Wal-Mart or Gander Mtn.
I'll thank you in advance for your suggestions.
Also, if you have pics of your setup, I'd like to see how you have secured yours.
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Having worked avionics for 20 years, I have a profound distrust of electronics and will never have a safe with electronic lock w/o a key over-ride. The battery or lock is going to fail you at the worst possible time. In fact, just give me a keyed lock. Second choice, manual combo lock.
Keep the key on your key ring. When you're home, put the key in the safe. When you leave, take the keys with you. Plus, you'll always know where your keys are--in the safe!
Most any safe can be bolted to wall studs or floor anchors (better). Most come predrilled. Certainly a consideration.
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I just got one of the small ones to put in my truck. @20.00, and it is a lot better tan having to put my 900.00 hand gun into the plastic glove box. Mounted under the rear seat out of sight on a piece of light plate steel and bolted to the seat frame bolts.
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Whatever you buy get the next size up from what you think you will need if you have the room for it. You will probably have more guns later. You can get a Liberty 23 for 700.00 with a combination lock. Make sure you bolt it down. Try not to put on an outside wall because a theif could run a chain around it and pull it thru the wall like they do atms. Most gun safes are rated as residential security containers. The best thing to have would be a TL30 rated safe but you are talking some serious money for one.American security has one it sells for around 14,000. Sometimes you can find used ones but they are still several thousand dollars.
Something to look for is a safe with external hinges for the door. When it comes time to move the safe, you can take that heavy door off and handle it separately. This really lightens up the weight you have to handle for the rest of the safe.
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IMO, about the minimum device that can be considered a "safe" is something with high-quality, 1/4" steel all around, a tight-fitting door of twice that thickness. Better to have it a seriously good steel, exceptional workmanship, special features like relockers and other techniques to avoid "standard" placement of critical components. To avoid the inevitable, as well, I also distrust the electronic keypad locks. Highly attractive for the ease of use and relative speed of entry, but I hear of far too many failures and freeze-outs to believe it'll never happen to me.
If you're prepared to wait a few weeks or more, check craigslist.org for used safes. You can easily safe 50-75% on a model of safe that should work well for you, if you're patient and know what to look for. Might take a drive to another town/city within several hundred miles, but you can save many hundreds of dollars or more.
Here's one: AMSEC 6030 in Iron Mountain, MI, for $475.
Another option might be: recent bankrupt businesses, which often sell their stuff for cheap.
That link was an example of the deals obtainable by looking on craigslist and elsewhere, not as a perfect choice for someone in Florida. YMMV, as always, with any such hunt for used bargains. Very few will be from the house next door.Iron Mountain, MI is over 1,200 miles from the nearest major city in Florida. One would be looking at a minimum two day drive EACH WAY!
I recently just purchased a winchester safe made by Granite security products. It has a 1400 degree 1.5 hour fire rating. I pgot it for $1200.00
I noticed you are located in N. Florida. If you go to the Gulfport MS area swing by Dad's Pawn shop on highway 49. They have the best prices I have seen plus a very good selection. If I had known about them before I ordered my Patriot safe I would have just got on from them.
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