1911 Major Maintenance Advice

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    1911 Major Maintenance Advice

    Hello All,
    I recently bought a Kimber, a little-carried Elite Carry. It appears to be untouched less the VZ grips, and I was told it has a “Nighthawk spring kit”. I’m an accomplished shooter, but this is my first 1911, and I must say I’ve never shot such an accurate combat pistol! This thing makes one-holers at pistol range a piece of cake. But man does it jam (with a variety of ammo)!
    I’ve ordered the appropriate Wilson mags for it to see if that makes a difference. In the meantime I’ve discovered that both of the upper “grip screw bushings” are stripped out in the aluminum frame. I’d like to get that fixed, and am seriously considering sending it to Kimber to have them just “go over it.” There is also a very minimal amount of abrasion on the feed ramp, and I’m a bit shy of polishing it myself. So of you 1911 guys, is that what you’d do? Would you recommend another gunsmith “over” Kimber? Or something else altogether?
    Thanks for the input.

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    I would send it to John Harrison @ http://www.harrisoncustom.com/
    He is a detail oriented perfectionist.
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    First, I'd call Kimber and see what they say. Pending on what they tell you it may be time to sent it out to a smith.
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    I would send it to John Harrison @ http://www.harrisoncustom.com/
    He is a detail oriented perfectionist.
    That would be a good one, I'd also recommend Innovative Custom Guns (Jim Milks formerly of EGW)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    I'd also recommend Innovative Custom Guns (Jim Milks formerly of EGW)
    Excellent recommendation, I had forgotten about Mr. Milks, he was George Smith's number one guy for a long time.
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    > Don't touch the feed ramp.

    > You have 2 options on the stripped grip screw bushings.
    Brownell's has an oversize tap with thread matched bushings and you can tap the existing holes out for the new oversize bushings...........
    or you can buy a spray can of "Contact Cleaner" degreaser...use that and cotton swabs to perfectly clean the existing bushings as well as the frame bushing holes and then set those bushings into the holes with LOC-TITE RED or LOC-TITE Stud & Bearing Mount.
    Then set the frame aside and don't move it for 24 hours & they will never come loose again.
    Either option works just fine.

    You need to also remember that since it's a KIMBER and it appears to be hardly shot...it may not have had enough of the Required Kimber "Break In Period" rounds through it yet. So make sure that you put 500 aggravating rounds through it before you contemplate sending off.


    Usually when any 1911 pattern pistol has numerous Failure To Function problems - you should look at Cheap or "out of spec" Magazines first & the extractor & the extractor tension SECOND.
    A jamming problem is almost never caused by the frame feed ramp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD* View Post
    Excellent recommendation, I had forgotten about Mr. Milks, he was George Smith's number one guy for a long time.
    They did pretty darn good work on two of my problem Kimbers, nothing but good things to say about EGW and their spawn.

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    http://www.carniakcustom.com/
    From what i seen and hear that she is one of the best 1911 Gunsmiths...

    Drop her a email or call...

    Good luck.
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    +1 on OkShooters advice, Check your mags to make sure they are clean and lubricated, and aren't the no name cheapy one's and check your extractor tension. These are about 99.9% of jamming problems with 1911's
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    I should call Kimber first.
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    A good gunsmith/machinist should be able to tap out the stripped holes and install a helicoil, which is a thread repair. It looks like a small spring. Will last forever.

    Unless you never intend to take the grips off again, pass on the red Loctite. That stuff's pretty permanant. The milder blue (or even green) will hold them temporarily until a repair can be made.

    1911s are nortorious for for needing a break-in period. You'd think something as expensive as a Kimber would work better new, but often not. I'd stick to hardball ammo in a decent brand (no cheap stuff) for a few hundred rounds. If it doesn't improve, then it may need work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Unless you never intend to take the grips off again, pass on the red Loctite. That stuff's pretty permanant. The milder blue (or even green) will hold them temporarily until a repair can be made.
    Sorry, what does using Loctite on the stock screw bushings have to do with removing the stock panels (grips)? You don't want the bushings coming out, unless you are changing the bushings themselves.
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    I read that as the bushings are stripped, as in the threads. If wrong, sorry. Red Lock-tite would secure the "loose" bushings.
    Mite touchy today, aren't we.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    I read that as the bushings are stripped, as in the threads. If wrong, sorry. Red Lock-tite would secure the "loose" bushings.
    The threads are stripped out in the aluminum frame.
    Mite touchy today, aren't we.
    Well, you might be a little bit.
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    Loctite on the bushing's sounds good as does the oversized tap and replacement bushings. As far as sending it out to anybody, I'd wait until after the break in period.
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    Tap the frame for oversize bushings and don't take the lock-tite shortcut. Get a staking tool ($35 at brownells) and install them correctly.

    As for a helicoil, you're not going to find a .236"-60tpi helicoil. An oversize .255-60tpi tap is usually big enough to rethread even the worse bushing holes

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