Intresting Week

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    Intresting Week

    This week was interesting. I've often heard stories like this but never thought I would meet "those people" LOL!! So here goes:

    Monday: I was talking to one of my classmates. She told me the story of her friend that carried a Khar .380. Notice the past tense. She now carries a .22. Why? Her b/f told her that it was safer because the Khar doesn't have a safety.

    Strange story 2: I was talking to another Specialist on Thursday (he carries from time to time). He said he doesn't carry with one in the chamber because he will have enough time to charge the gun. I've heard that before (read it here and other forums) but the kicker was:I really carry to intimidate if I ever have to shoot someone I'll aim for the legs. With my .45 that'll hurt them bad (USP .45) but if I carry my Sig I'll aim form the chest cause it's a 9.

    There were more gems but I'm tired of typing. LOL

    Just thought I'd share. Have a good weekend guys!!

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    Oh brother...

    The person in story number 2 needs to put his gun back on the shelf. He should not have been let out of day care, much less carrying a gun around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r0rtiz View Post
    Oh brother...

    The person in story number 2 needs to put his gun back on the shelf. He should not have been let out of day care, much less carrying a gun around.
    +1.

    Confused people like this give the true "armed citizen" a bad name.

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    Never mind that the legs have a few very large arteries in them that can bleed you out. I've had that discussion before. The look on his face when I told him I would aim center chest was priceless. Some folks watch too much TV.
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    #1 I wonder if the BF now carries a Khar .380?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hk45c View Post
    this week was interesting. I've often heard stories like this but never thought i would meet "those people" lol!! So here goes:

    Monday: I was talking to one of my classmates. She told me the story of her friend that carried a khar .380. Notice the past tense. She now carries a .22. Why? Her b/f told her that it was safer because the khar doesn't have a safety.

    Strange story 2: I was talking to another specialist on thursday (he carries from time to time). He said he doesn't carry with one in the chamber because he will have enough time to charge the gun. I've heard that before (read it here and other forums) but the kicker was:i really carry to intimidate if i ever have to shoot someone i'll aim for the legs. With my .45 that'll hurt them bad (usp .45) but if i carry my sig i'll aim form the chest cause it's a 9.

    There were more gems but i'm tired of typing. Lol

    just thought i'd share. Have a good weekend guys!!
    specialist!?!?
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    Wow, some people just leave you scratching your head....

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    Seems to me that my job isn't to aim somebody else's gun for them. If they want to shoot COM, or limbs, or go for the headshot, that's the shooter's business - not mine.

    Did you read this story posted here earlier this week?

    I looked at this guy and at his companions and at his knife, and I thought: Don't you see how you're misreading me? I am not a victim. I used to be a victim, but now I'm not. Can't you see the difference?

    I pulled the automatic, leveled it at them and said very clearly, "You must be dreaming."

    The guy smiled at me and said, "Sheeeit," and his buddies laughed, and he began to move toward me with the knife. I thought, this guy is willing to kill me for thirty-five dollars. I aimed the automatic at the outer edge of his left thigh and shot him.

    He dropped like a high jumper hitting the bar and yelled "Goddamn!" three times, the first one from amazement, I guess, and the second two higher pitched and from pain.
    If we take this guy at his word, he dropped a perp with a leg shot. The point is, that was his business. He carried a gun and he decided how to use it. Same goes for any other gun owner. They don't need our approval for what they carry or how they choose to defend themselves, as long as they do so legally. Somebody's comfortable carrying a .22, fine with me.

    And I'm only bringing this up because there's so much judgementalism I see lately, where owners are expected to conform to a very narrow, very rigid set of permissible options. My vote is that we lighten up a bit. The very fact that people are willing to take responsibility for their own defense and are choosing to arm themselves is a good thing and maybe we should back off the idea that each and every single CCW permit holder is only allowed to carry a Glock 36, and only allowed the Mozambique drill on the street. (Personally, I carry large and practice the Mozambique - but that's just me.)
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    As I read the post, the OP was sharing some of his conversations that he thought demonstrated people with bazarre thoughts on carrying and self defense. Others chimed in. Isn't that what you do on a blog? There's a 50/50 chance people will agree with your take or not. If prople don't want other's opinions or feedback, then there's really no point in posting anything. It's a defensive carry board where people share their thoughts, experiences, and opinions on carrying guns and all of the things it entails. Opinions will vary, but it is still up to the individual to make thier own decisions and take responsibility for them. This is simply a resource.

    PS. I understand what you're getting at, and yes there seems to be a fair amount of constructive criticism...but there seem to be a lot of "I did this, ain't it cool" threads of immature behavior lately too. Perhaps that's why the increase in criticism. I too get tired of the "if you're not carrying X, you're an irresponsible person" posts, but that's just one person's opinion that I am free to ignore. Take care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shockwave View Post
    And I'm only bringing this up because there's so much judgementalism I see lately, where owners are expected to conform to a very narrow, very rigid set of permissible options.
    Well, when you have folks telling you that if you don't want to go to jail you BETTER shoot them in the leg. Let's just say the judging I have experienced comes from folks that think they are doing the perp a favor, and I should too. Except I know better. If you cut the femoral artery you have about 10 minutes or so before your life starts slipping away quickly. If someone want's to shoot them in the pinky to, ie Harlem Nights, then whatever. But the 2 discussions I have gotten into about shooting in the legs were folks telling me it's what I needed to do. Or worse, making newbies think that it's what they should do. I got into a heated discussion on another board from a guy trying to tell everyone that shooting them in the leg was better because you were not trying to kill them. That's just plain ignorant. Deadly force is deadly force. My rebuttal was that if deadly force was not authorized then you should not shoot, but he seemed to be intent on shooting them in the legs if deadly force was questionable. WHAT?! Then he called me Rambo. That was an interesting thread.

    Just presenting my observations on the leg vs COM issue. YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deafdave3 View Post
    specialist!?!?
    Yah, he's an E-4. We work out of the same Armory.

    To Shockwave, Bugdude hit it head on. I was just amazed that I met another soldier that carries and held these thoughts and wanted to share with my online fam. If I have offended anyone on this forum that holds these same views please forgive me.

    As far as the .22 issue it is not that she chose to carry a .22, it's just why she is carrying it that trips me out. The misinformation that he passed on got to my classmate and who knows who else.....

    Steve, he has a bunch of other guns or that is what my classmate told me anyway....


    But again, I am sorry if I have offended anyone.

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    There are tons of 'strange story' persons walking around with guns, and many of them will end up with a story.
    They are all entitled to their carry and SD methods, we all reap what we sow. I wish him well with the leg shots.
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    Forums are a great place for chest-thumping bravado from those who haven't been or are not in that situation. If someone thinks he can--or does--stop an assailant with a leg shot, more power to him. Self protection doesn't necessarily mean lethal force. In the end, we must all make our own decisions and live with the consquences.

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