Sad Story In The News Today

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    Another tragic case of violating safety rule number one.

    Sad, just sad.

    Mother: Eureka shooting was accidental
    Posted: Tuesday, Jun 27, 2006 - 11:45:58 pm PDT




    By CHERY SABOL

    The Daily Inter Lakeand The Associated Press

    A grieving Eureka mother wants people to know that her teenage son accidentally killed himself and another teenager last weekend.

    Jacob Lee, 19, of Eureka, and Lorena Mocko, 16, died after the 1 a.m. shooting on a Tobacco Road home Saturday.


    Lee’s mother, Sheri Lee, said her son’s death was accidental and not a suicide, as it has been called.

    She desperately hopes that parents will talk to their children about the dangers of mixing alcohol and guns, she said.

    According to the Lincoln County Sheriff’s Office, Lee died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. The bullet reportedly passed through his body and struck Mocko, also killing her.

    Detective Darren Short of the Sheriff’s Office is investigating the tragedy.

    “There’s probably not, at this point” any reason to think the shooting wasn’t accidental, Short said Tuesday.

    He went to the state crime lab in Missoula for the autopsies on the two teenagers.

    Lee said her son and two friends were target practicing Saturday. Later, a group of teenagers wound up at a party in a house south of Eureka. Witnesses at the party told Lee that Jacob — thinking it was empty after target practice — took out his gun and started playing with it.

    One of the teens told him, “Jake, don’t play with that gun like that.” The teens said he responded, “Why not? It’s not loaded.”

    Then he pulled the trigger and died instantly. Mocko reportedly died soon afterward.

    The county coroner “used the word suicide,” contradicting what witnesses saw, Lee said.

    “He’s never been suicidal,” Lee said of Jacob. “He’s a very happy-go-lucky young man.”

    Jacob was born in Whitefish and raised in Eureka on the Spiritual Sky Ranch, which offers trail rides.

    He worked in home construction and lived in a home in town before his death, Lee said.

    She is a proud mother, describing her son.

    “He was a genius cowboy mechanic” who could build a car by age 9 and make it run, she said.

    She wants people to know that Jacob’s death was accidental, not intentional, and to warn other youths.

    “Alcohol and guns don’t mix. You don’t play with guns,” Lee said. “It’s an important message.”

    A memorial service is planned for Jacob Lee at the Spiritual Sky Ranch Thursday at 4 p.m. It is open to the public.

    Jeri Mitchell, a close friend of Mocko’s mother, described the shooting as “just a total freak thing.”

    Mocko, who was studying to become a paramedic, was born in Whitefish but had lived in Fernie most of her life with her mother, Laura Abrahamsen, and four siblings, Mitchell said. Her father, David Mocko, lives in Eureka.

    “She was beautiful,” Mitchell said. “Absolutely beautiful, inside and out. This is so bad. Tragic. She was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.”

    Mitchell said Mocko had friends and a boyfriend in Eureka and was in town visiting when she was shot.

    Lee was not known as one of Mocko’s contacts, and likely just happened to be at the same house party that night, Mitchell said.

    Mocko’s remains were being returned to Fernie on Tuesday. Funeral services for Mocko are scheduled for 1 p.m. today at the Fernie Baptist Church.


    When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
    And the women come out to cut up what remains,
    Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
    And go to your God like a soldier.

    Rudyard Kipling


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    First, if he killed HIMSELF it was a suicide.

    Second, if he pulled the trigger, it was NOT an accident.

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    When will people learn??? Guns are always loaded - even if they're not.

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    thinking it was empty after target practice
    <sigh> - oh my, how often do we hear this

    Poor adherence to the four rules and yeah - I guess booze played a part too. So totally avoidable.
    “Why not? It’s not loaded.”
    <sigh> again
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzmtg
    First, if he killed HIMSELF it was a suicide.

    Second, if he pulled the trigger, it was NOT an accident.
    Got to admit it was a suicide, by definition. But, the argument can be made for the accident. Stupidity does fit very well though.

    What's amazing to me it the guy managed to kill TWO people. Talk about bad luck.
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    underage drinking?? Aren't they already breaking the law??

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    Suicide or stupidity or negligence? More so the latter two.

    We're talking semantics here, guys. The County Coroner hasn't made an official ruling yet, but it doesn't look like suicide at this point.


    When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
    And the women come out to cut up what remains,
    Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
    And go to your God like a soldier.

    Rudyard Kipling


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    My heart goes out to the family of this young man and woman. Alcohol and guns don't mix. Alcohol, guns, and teenagers....

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    So many rules violated, so many things wrong. Still tragic.
    eschew obfuscation

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    A tragic chain of avoidable events ending in the needless death of two young people. My sympathies to the families of the deceased. Alcohol, guns and inmaturity just do not go well together.

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    Sad reality.
    After trying to come up with a way to drive it home to my kids that guns are always loaded, even when they are not. I came up with the “Gun Ferry”.
    She is really small and can fly down the barrel of any gun and load it while you aren’t looking, and even while you ARE looking cuz she is so small and fast.

    The kids got a kick out of it, but I hope it is driven into them so that someday when they least expect it, after a few beers (when they are much older,) they won’t (God forbid!) make the same mistake.

    I now have to invent the “Beer Ferry” who makes you do things you wouldn’t normally want to do.

    Seriously,
    I am truly sad for the families involved in this story. For some it’s too late. For the rest, there’s training.
    It’s so much easier now days, to "Love and honor" my wife, when she is armed, and shoots a better group than I do. (Till death do us part, eh?)

    “The way you get shot by a concealed weapons permit holder is, you point a gun at him,” the Sheriff said.

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    So many mistakes made....but still very sad. STUPID STUPID kids doing kid stuff. My heart goes out to the family.
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    In the UK there is another official clascification of death that I think might apply here. its called "Death by Misadventure"
    I still don't know that I don't know.
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    Darwin at work.

    Too bad he had to take someone else with him!

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    how old to posses a handgun???

    who's gun was it?

    I just get questions.....

    I feel very sorry for the families...

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