Da/sa 1911?

Da/sa 1911?

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    Da/sa 1911?

    why have I never seen a 1911 stye gun with DA/SA?

    I get that it wouldnt truly be a 1911 anymore - but wouldnt people still want one?
    is it purely a mechanical issue?

    who wouldnt want one for DC and why?
    I would buy one in a second


    Seems like an obvious topic (I hope it hasnt already been beat to death)
    my search didnt yield much.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by vapor162 View Post
    why have I never seen a 1911 stye gun with DA/SA?

    I get that it wouldnt truly be a 1911 anymore - but wouldnt people still want one?
    is it purely a mechanical issue?

    who wouldnt want one for DC and why?
    I would buy one in a second


    Seems like an obvious topic (I hope it hasnt already been beat to death)
    my search didnt yield much.......
    Because if it is DA/SA is not a 1911.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vapor162 View Post
    why have I never seen a 1911 stye gun with DA/SA?
    It's called a S&W 4506 or Sig 220.

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    Colt makes a DA only 1911 (if you can call it that), but not a SA/DA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    It's called a S&W 4506 or Sig 220.
    Pretty much. I'm glad that SIG came out with a P220 SAO matter of fact.

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    I am not sure of the exact years but there was the Seecamp Conversion by either Larry or Louie Seecamp (not sure of first name), I have seen and handled only one.

    http://www.m1911.org/seecamp.htm
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    There are lots of them. Who made the LDA? Was it Springfield or Kimber maybe? Can't remember! (Maybe it was Para)
    Then of course the Colt Double Eagles DA/SA and DAO, and Colt currently markets the DAO 1911 styles as well.

    I agree, they are not TRUE 1911's, but do retain the same pointability and slender configuration. Size and shape very similar to the older S&W's, but usually at a higher price.

    To answer your question as to DC, I think the 1911 folks prefer a "REAL" 1911, and the other crowd just as soon would have a Glock , Ruger, XD, etc.

    They were a product for which there was no market. That doesn't mean YOU are screwy for wanting one! There just weren't enough of folks like yourself out there.

    Last week there was a SWEET Colt Double Eagle Officer's model in Stainless, still in the box and everything on GB--looked new, went for about the price of a new Glock too. I had to try hard not to bid on it!

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=194270763

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    its a purest thing, its like putting a hammer on a Glock, one or two people might want it, the rest would be seriously confused and hate it. A 1911 is in a class of its own and has been unchanged for 100 years next year. Why go and make something that already works, and is designed to be carried in one way, work differently. I saw one one time and absolutley hated it. If you want one, have it, but please do not go around bragging about it as a 1911.
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    Exactly Chris! While I did drool over that Double Eagle, (was looking at it more as an investment) I DID think about it......WHY would I want a DA 1911-style pistol? One of the key features of that original 1911 design is the sweet SA trigger.

    But, to each his own. I've heard a lot of people LIKE Glocks too! Go figure! :)

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    Closest you'll find is a Para LDA (light double action). It's a great trigger on a "1911 style" gun. Great shooters, but the finish on them wears very quickly and very easily.

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    What about the spurless hammers on the Para Ordanance LDAs? ( Light Double Action.). My guess is that your first shot with the hammer down, would leave the hammer cocked for the rest of the mag. Isn't that the way that LDA line is supposed to operate?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbahoundog View Post
    What about the spurless hammers on the Para Ordanance LDAs? ( Light Double Action.). My guess is that your first shot with the hammer down, would leave the hammer cocked for the rest of the mag. Isn't that the way that LDA line is supposed to operate?.
    The lda is first "cocked" when you chamber a round. The hammer returns nearly all the way forward. Basically all you are working against with trigger pull is the hammer return spring. Somebody will come along with a better explaination but I'm basically right.

    If given a oppurtunity to shoot a lda I suggest you give it a try. It's a very unique and light trigger system.

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    I have a Para Carry 9 and love it. The LDA system is like a DA revolver. The pulling of the trigger raises the hammer to full cock, drops the hammer and fires the round. Once the round is fired slides functions and the process starts over. At no time does the hammer remain at it's full cock position. The trigger pull is the smoothest and "lightest" I have ever felt but it goes bang every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb2wji View Post
    Closest you'll find is a Para LDA (light double action). It's a great trigger on a "1911 style" gun. Great shooters, but the finish on them wears very quickly and very easily.
    Not if it's in stainless.
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    Seems like an obvious topic
    For what useful purpose, though? It is basically a pointless topic.


    who wouldnt want one for DC and why?
    I would buy one in a second
    What is wrong with your current DC gun that you want to replace it with a DA/SA 1911 ?

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