This is a discussion on I was not allowed to rent a gun? within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by dbramhall It just happened a few weeks ago out here: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-b...105134909.html I was there, not inside. Very sad...
I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. --- Will Rogers ---
Chief Justice John Roberts : "I don't see how you can read Heller and not take away from it the notion that the Second Amendment...was extremely important to the framers in their view of what liberty meant."
No idea how this would work. I am a member of a gun club with private indoor and outdoor ranges, so I don't know the policies of business ranges
This has been a common practice for years in the Seattle area. When I first moved out here from NYC I had never fired a gun of any sort. I wanted to. I had to call 3 or 4 ranges before I found one that would rent to me without a second person being present. Given that I had just moved to a new city and growing up in NYC, I had never had any friends that were gun owners.
The gun that the range suggested I rent after telling them I had never touched a handgun? A DA/SA P229. Why not something as simple as a glock I'll never know. Because the principles of avoiding hurting yourself are very simple nothing bad happened, though I'm not sure what I would have done had it jammed.
I was listing two separate points:
One: A Glock is a more simple weapon to operate than a DA/SA SIG. I think this is indisputable.
Two: Someone who has never touched a gun before does not know how to clear a jam. I knew nothing of squib loads, hang fires, stovepipes, double feeds, limp wristing, etc.
That's a crappy rule! What if someone is just getting into guns and wants to try one out before making a purchase? This leaves the novice high and dry!!! Not a good way to win converts!
"First gallant South Carolina nobly made the stand."
Edge of Darkness
Besides, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with novices to shooting alone.
Ek = 1/2 (m*v^2)
Ok your age? What was your demeanor like when you entered the range? Maybe there was something you said? or actions that raised a red flag to them? I'm just asking these questions because something about you tipped them into not letting you rent their inventory.
Why Waltz when you can Rock-N-Roll
New Albany and the Powder Room have had suicides. They really do thier best to keep the range as safe as possible while keeping it as fun as possible. Unlike the powder room you can shoot magnums and high power rifles there. Neither New Albany nor the powdre room has a shotgun facility either. It can be an pain with the no lone shooter and no gun person wanting to shoot but I have seen many people go out on the range supervised by RSO's so they are not alone as part of what is called a test drive. If you are interested in a gun and it is in the rental counter or a used gun that they can allow to be fired you may request a test drive. 5.00 plus tax for five rounds covers the RSO, a target, the gun, eye/ear protection to see if you like a gun rather than the 20.00 for range time which is for however long you are there not by the half hour. You may be able to do multiple tests to figure out what you like depending on staffing and how busy they are. BTW there isnt a glock 20 to rent in thier counter. Hope that helps.
I really don't see why people are so down on this. At least one of the two local ranges has this rule and they have had at least one suicide by rental. I wonder if those that are against this rule would change their tune if they had to witness, clean up or have this happen in their range. Or would they just shrug it off and go on with business as usual?
My father-in-law says a number of ranges in his area have closed up shop because of suicides.
It is stated on their site. Ohio's Best Pistol & Rifle Indoor Shooting Range » Black Wing Shooting Center
You aren't even allowed on the range.
Our House Is Protected By The Good Lord And A gun. You Might Meet Both Of Them If You Show Up Inside My House Uninvited.
The local range I shoot at has this policy, too. I understand it. It's a business/liability issue and I'm fine with it.
"For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." - Ephesians 2:8-9
“The purpose of the law is not to prevent a future offense, but to punish the one actually committed” - Ayn Rand
Here in Vegas it happen once a month at the tourist rental ranges. The link is one of the most noteable for Denver, CO:
Australian twins had suicide pact at shooting range - The Denver Post
Sigmund Freud associates retarded sexual and emotional development not with gun ownership, but with a fear and loathing of weapons!