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How Did your State rate Hopefully D+ or Below

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    PA got a D+ - not bad!!

    However, BEWARE, Pennsylvanians - I saw an article in the paper today that the PA legislature is holding a one-day special session on Sept 26 to discuss possible gun-control proposals - including one-gun-a-month and giving Philly the ability to pre-empt state gun laws.

    Read the full story at http://www.ydr.com/politics/ci_4029567

    I'll post this information in a separate thread within the next week to alert PA members to contact their representatives & write editorials before the legislative meeting.

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    raevan beat me to it. Go Washington! Only A's are for juvy owner/possession and I can live with that.
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    kentucky got a big fat F,man i love the bluegrass state

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjones
    Texas got a big D-. I knew they didn't like my state.I am so thankful to be back in my home state again and out of missouri.When my job was over up there I was gone.sj

    I know there is no place like home, but what made Missouri so bad? (I'm not mad, just curious.) If you were in KC or The Loo, I understand.

    We got a D+. We'll try harder next time.
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    I'm glad they gave Alabama an F, but they have several bits of info wrong. Police Chiefs have no say whatsoever in CCW. Permits are issued by county sheriffs only. Their site has this statement:

    Alabama: No state restriction on adults carrying concealed firearms onto school grounds. Parents should know that loaded handguns may be legally brought onto school grounds by people with concealed carry permits.
    Every CCW permit issued in Alabama has two restrictions listed on it. Courthouses and schools. The definition of schools in the law is: Public K-12.

    They can't even get a simple thing like the restrictions right what makes anyone think that they can get the complicated ones right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopperKnight
    raevan beat me to it. Go Washington! Only A's are for juvy owner/possession and I can live with that.
    Beat me, also.

    One thing I would like to know: What is the armed crime rate (not including self-defense cases) in the states, and how does it compare in relation to the Brady-bunch grade?

    I'm thinking inverse. Time to go statistic hunting.



    Here's a quick blog link.

    Another link.

    And the obligatory NRA-ILA link.

    What I want to find is a percentage of armed crime per capita and compare it to the grade of the state. Might have to crunch my own numbers on this one using Bureau of Justice Statistics. Quick overall analysis: with more "Right-to-Carry", less crime in my neighborhood. Property crime statistics are leveling off...time to apply the castle doctrine to personal property...and get that on the decline again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smorgan
    Beat me, also.

    One thing I would like to know: What is the armed crime rate (not including self-defense cases) in the states, and how does it compare in relation to the Brady-bunch grade?
    Maryland is a consistent A rated state, and used to lead the nation in armed robbery per capita.

    Not sure if it still does, need to go dig.

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    OK, got the state by state rates for 2004 from the BJS. Going to do some analysis.

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    Tennessee Receives a "D+" on Laws Shielding Families From Gun Violence
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    Well, I pulled the numbers and Brady grades for 2004.

    Then, I averaged the rates from the states with each grade for:

    - Total Violent Crime rate per Capita
    - Murder / Manslaughter rate per Capita
    - Rape rate per Capita
    - Robbery rate per Capita
    - Aggravated Assault rate per Capita

    And the data ended up looking like this:

    'A' Graded (MD, CA, MA, NJ, CT, HI)
    • 434.58
    • 4.73
    • 23.48
    • 143.95
    • 262.45


    'B' Graded (IL, NY, NE, RI)
    • 385.15
    • 3.85
    • 29.28
    • 121.05
    • 230.98

    'C' Graded (DE, NC, KS, OR, VA, IA, MN, WI)
    • 339.34
    • 3.38
    • 32.20
    • 88.95
    • 214.79

    'D' Graded (SC, FL, TN, AK, NV, TX, AZ, OK, AR, MO, MI, GA, PA, CO, WA, OH, IN, WV, UT, VT, ME, ND)
    • 410.74
    • 4.70
    • 37.59
    • 97.81
    • 270.64

    'F' Graded (NM, LA, AL, MS, MT, KY, ID, WY)
    • 382.61
    • 6.04
    • 36.41
    • 75.95
    • 264.23


    Looking at the list, some things jump out.

    States with 'A' ratings lead the nation in overall violent crime, are second to 'F' states in murder, are lowest in rape, lead in robbery, and are third behind the 'D' and 'F' states in Aggravated Assault.

    So an A rating correlates to a pretty high level of violent crime, it seems.

    One interesting thing to note, though, is Washington, DC - which should be a Brady Paradise with massively restricted private ownership of guns. Here are their numbers:

    DC:
    • 1371.20
    • 35.80
    • 40.10
    • 578.50
    • 716.90


    DC, of course, eclipses every single state for violent crime, in every category.

    Note - these are 2004 numbers and 2004 grades, as the BJS does not yet have the 2005 numbers on their site.

    For those interested, I have included a PDF of the raw data I used, exported from Excel.

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    WooHoo! Louisiana got an F. Rock on. http://www.stategunlaws.org/viewstate.php?st=LA

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    F+ How did we get the +?
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    Shoot, just a D, was hoping for an F.
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    Well, Kansas got a C-. We must be a bunch of goof off's !
    I'll bet that changes after the 1st of the year when CC is legal
    If it don't I might have to move to one of those F- state's
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