Doctors and guns

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    Doctors and guns

    On the news, a week or so back, they were talking about a lawmaker who wanted to ban doctors from asking patients if they had guns in their home.
    I couldnít imagine a scenario where a doctor would ask me that.

    But how about this

    Me: Hey doc, when shaving, this morning, I noticed this hole in my forehead. And, look at the back a bigger hole!
    Doc: Um . . . Yes . . . I see . . . Do you have any guns in your home?
    Me: Why yes I do!
    Doc: do you keep them locked up in a gun safe?
    Me: Why no Doc! They are very well behaved and I generally just give them the run of place! Not like those darn dogs, raising a ruckus over the UPS truck and crapping on the floor, I keep them tied up.

    Or

    Me: Why yes I do!
    Doc: do you and your wife get along?
    Me: Normally, but we had a doozy of an argument, yesterday!


    Me: Oh, I see where youíre going with this! Iím going right out and getting a gun safe!
    Doc: Well, Iím afraid itís too late for that. Iím required to report gunshot wounds to the authorities. And, theyíre going to want to do an autopsy.
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    Doctors

    (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is
    700,000.

    (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians
    per year are

    120,000.

    (C) Accidental deaths per physician
    is

    0.171

    Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of
    Health and Human Services.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Now think about this:

    Guns

    (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S.

    is

    80,000,000.

    (Yes, that's 80 million)

    (B) The number of accidental gun deaths

    per year, all age groups,

    is

    1,500.

    (C) The number of accidental deaths
    per gun owner
    is

    .0000188

    Statistics courtesy of FBI


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    So, statistically, doctors are approximately

    9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN,

    BUT

    Almost everyone has at least one doctor.
    This means you are over 9,000 times more likely to be killed by a doctor as by a gun owner!!!

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Please alert your friends
    to this
    alarming threat.
    We must ban doctors
    before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Out of concern for the public at large,

    We withheld the statistics on

    lawyers

    for fear the shock would cause

    people to panic and seek medical attention!

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    My doctor usually asks what is the latest thing I have bought then we talk guns for a few minutes before continuing with the appointment. We also shoot at the same range and he does have a carry permit..
    When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
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    I have had docs ask me if we have guns in the house as part of the kiddos checkups. It does seem rather irrelavent to the conversation at the time and none of their business.
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    Actually, this came up for me. I have Kaiser health insurance, and they offer a "health assessment test". I decided I'd take it, see if there were areas I could work on. It asked a bunch of questions i'd consider normal, like what did I eat, how much did I exercise, that sort of thing. And all of a sudden, it started asking me, "Did I own a gun? How many? Did I have trigger locks? did I have a gun safe?"

    Made me real nervous, and I eventually stopped answering the survey, but not before I had answered Yes that I owned a gun, a no to the trigger lock.

    Then I got the "Assessment" back, and it starts making suggestions for locking my guns up to reduce my "Risk of injury".

    It unnerved me a little I'll be honest.

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    It's a question on the sign-in form at my doctor's office. I always write in N/A as my answer, and nobody has ever questioned it.
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    I answer those questions with " NOYB" = Non Of Your Business.
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    See "More Guns Less Crime" Page 10 of the 3erd Edition
    this data was for 2006
    642 accidental firearms deaths (total adults and children)
    13 involved children 4 and under, 18 five to nine year olds
    1,305 children died in car crashes
    392 died when struck by cars
    651 drown
    348 killed by fire and burns "Allmost Three times as many children drown in bathtubs each year than die from all types of firearm accidents."

    see http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr58/nvsr58_14.pdf Page 7 In 2006 Accidents (unintentional injuries) ranked 5th in causes of death total of: 121,599 or 5.0%

    Gun accidents were 0.53% of the accidental deaths in 2006 and 0.026% of all 2,426,264 deaths in 2006.
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    Quote Originally Posted by varob View Post
    I answer those questions with " NOYB" = Non Of Your Business.

    You sir are more polite than am I: my responce is always NOYFB or I just lie because anything other than a NO will be recorded as a YES

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    My doc felt my gun, said it was the worst case of kidney stones he'd ever found.
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    Wonder why they don't ask about alcohol in the home, or the tread depth on your tires, or how about slippery floors? Any knife in the home? Are all the carpets securely nailed down? Are there any sharp edges on any furniture? Do you ever exceed the posted speed limit? Ec.t, ect., ect.!
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    One of friend friend replied back.. How many people were saved by doctor from a gun shot wound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalexplr View Post
    Wonder why they don't ask about alcohol in the home, or the tread depth on your tires, or how about slippery floors? Any knife in the home? Are all the carpets securely nailed down? Are there any sharp edges on any furniture? Do you ever exceed the posted speed limit? Ec.t, ect., ect.!
    And: Do you lock your water supply, so children cannot use it when your not watching?
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    I must be lucky. My eye doc carries a LCP. My DC carries a Glock 26, LCP or Bersa 380. My surgeon is ex-military and we've talked about him shooting his Beretta and AR15. I haven't discussed guns with my PCP MD or DDS.
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    I once got my hand cut in an accident with a taurus .40 needed some stitches so I went to the ER. I got questioned up and down about how it happened and when I said gun the DR. ran over to the phone and called the cops to report a gun accident. I just had to laugh.
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