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    Here is some more history about this famous expedition. The US Congress allocated $2,500 to pay for the entire expedition. In addition to the wages being paid to all of the men, that money allowed them to supply and equip the expedition. Here is a complete inventory of all of the equipment and supplies that the expedition started out with:

    Mathematical Instruments:

    surveyor’s compass
    hand compass
    2 quadrants
    2 telescopes
    3 thermometers
    2 sextants
    set of plotting instruments
    chronometer (needed to calculate longitude)

    Camp Supplies:

    150 yards of cloth to be oiled and sewn into tents and sheets
    pliers
    chisels
    30 steels for striking to make fire
    handsaws
    hatchets
    whetstones
    iron corn mill
    two dozen tablespoons
    mosquito curtains
    10 1/2 pounds of fishing hooks and fishing lines
    12 pounds of soap
    193 pounds of "portable soup" (a thick paste concocted by boiling down beef, eggs and vegetables)
    three bushels of salt
    writing paper, ink and crayons

    Presents for Indians:

    12 dozen pocket mirrors
    4,600 sewing needles
    288 knives
    144 small scissors
    130 rolls of tobacco
    10 pounds of sewing thread
    silk ribbons
    ivory combs
    handkerchiefs
    yards of bright-colored cloth
    tomahawks that doubled as pipes
    8 brass kettles
    vermilion face paint
    33 pounds of tiny beads of assorted colors

    Clothing:

    45 flannel shirts
    coats
    frocks
    shoes
    woolen pants
    blankets
    knapsacks
    stockings

    Arms and Ammunition:

    15 Model 1803 muzzle-loading .54 caliber rifles
    28 knives
    500 rifle flints
    420 pounds of sheet lead for bullets
    176 pounds of gunpowder packed in 52 lead canisters
    1 long-barreled Italian rifle that fired its .46 caliber bullets with compressed air

    Medicine and Medical Supplies:

    50 dozen Dr. Rush’s patented "Rush’s pills"
    lancets
    forceps
    syringes
    tourniquets
    1,300 doses of physic
    1,100 hundred doses of emetic
    3,500 doses of diaphoretic (sweat inducer)
    other drugs for blistering, salivation and increased kidney output

    Traveling Library:

    Barton’s Elements of Botany
    Antoine Simon Le Page du Pratz’s History of Louisiana
    Richard Kirwan’s Elements of Mineralogy
    A Practical Introduction to Spherics and Nautical Astronomy
    The Nautical Almanac and Astronomical Ephemeris
    a four-volume dictionary
    a two-volume edition of Linnaeus (the founder of the Latin classification of plants)
    tables for finding longitude and latitude
    map of the Great Bend of the Missouri River

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    Here is the route of the expedition. Oregon was really BIG then!

    Our state somehow later got jipped!! Washington, Idaho, Western Montana, Wyoming, and British Columbia really belong to us!




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    I wonder what this Model 1803 Rifle they took was like.

    Did the US Army even have rifles back then?? I thought they were still using smooth-bore muskets back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LanceORYGUN View Post
    I wonder what this Model 1803 Rifle they took was like.

    Did the US Army even have rifles back then?? I thought they were still using smooth-bore muskets back then.
    If it specified rifle it should have had a rifled barrel, and was probably by the arsenal at Harpers Ferry. In 1803 it would have been a flintlock though. Check out Harpers Ferry Model 1803 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for more information.
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    Thanks for posting! Very interesting and educational. I never knew about this rifle before, and it does seem to answering a couple of questions about the expedition.
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    Thanks for Sharing.

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    That was very interesting, and well worth the time to view the video. Thanks for posting it.
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    Very cool. I have had some nice airguns in my time, but that one takes the cake. Interesting history lesson. Glad I watched and thanks for sharing.

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    Thanks for sharing. I just received this link in an email two days ago.
    Interesting history lesson and one of the minor reasons Louis & Clark were successful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LanceORYGUN View Post
    Here is the route of the expedition. Oregon was really BIG then!

    Our state somehow later got jipped!! Washington, Idaho, Western Montana, Wyoming, and British Columbia really belong to us!
    And a huge chunk was Wasco County



    Everyone from The Cascades to the Rockies, start sending your property taxes to The Dalles!

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    Careful, you'll shoot your eye out!

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    Amazing video! Thanks for posting. BTW, that air rifle is a beauty
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