First Shot is the Most Important; Right?
This is a discussion on First Shot is the Most Important; Right? within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I have been thinking about this for awhile. I have been busy weighing the pros and cons of the whole revolver vs semi-auto debate.
July 22nd, 2006 04:47 PM
July 22nd, 2006 04:47 PM
July 22nd, 2006 04:56 PM
Carry what you shoot, can handle and are the most comfortable with! this seems as the revo win's in your case. No problem with that at all.
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July 22nd, 2006 04:57 PM
Hey, do whatever works for you. For you, apparenlty, the wheelgun works best.
Go with it and never look back.
July 22nd, 2006 05:01 PM
As long as follow up shots are as accurate., go with the revolver.
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July 22nd, 2006 05:10 PM
Well... I'd say my follow up shots are accurate, but after watching that show in History channel yesterday, I will won't call my shooting accurate for along time.
But seriously, yes, they are quite accurate. :)
July 22nd, 2006 05:13 PM
Here is my rating for carry guns in order of importance:
Reliablity (Do you trust it to go BANG when you pull the trigger?)
Accuracy ( YMMV on group size)
Confidence (Do you know your abilities with the gun?)
Comfort (shooting and carrying)
Aftermarket accessories (sights, holsters)
With that said, I think EVERY shot is just as important as the one before it and the one after it, as every shot is a chance to live a little longer. Don't focus on making one or two good shots. With my 10mm, I focus on making 18 good shots, with my 45 I focus on making 11 good shots.
When I train I use tiny targets. My "torsos" are only 8" high and 5" wide. I train out to 50 yards with them. If I can keep all my shots in an 8x5 area in training, I shouldn't have a problem doing so when an attacker is trying to kill me. I expect groups to at least double when I am under real stress. That means a 16"x10" zone, plenty of room to place shots. Even tripling the size gives me 24"x15", between the shoulders and in the chest.
Words of wisdom I live by:
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
Aim small miss small.
Draw quick shoot slow.
July 22nd, 2006 05:18 PM
Its what ever you feel comfortable with more comfortable with a wheelie then carry it
July 22nd, 2006 05:28 PM
I've applied that towards motorcycle riding and have found it to apply to almost everything else in life. Quite right indeed!
Originally Posted by freakshow10mm
July 22nd, 2006 06:37 PM
Unless its a slow smooth and a smooth fast. Then the slow loses to the fast.
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
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July 22nd, 2006 07:15 PM
As most have said - it has to be IMO down to what you operate best - and if that is revo by far then seems logical to use that for carry.
Even 5 shots from your increased accuracy potential may well exceed the effectiveness of twice as many from a semi you find way less accurate - for you.
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July 22nd, 2006 10:49 PM
If you are standing still in a lethal encounter...it wont matter....you will be shot/stabbed/bludgeoned.
Bullseye accuracy in a weaver stance is pipe dream at best in such an encounter.
YOU should train to move and shoot...and be as accurate as possible in that situation. And practice, practice, practice....you may be accurate standing still with no bullets flying your general direction, but dont count on it unless you practice from concealment, and while moving and engaging multiple targets...
Guys, dont fool yourself into thinking a crack shot will get you thru...there are many more perameters involved in survivng a lethal force encounter. Get training....and practice.
If you dont think what Im saying is true....just watch LEO shooting footage and see how few times they hit....
July 22nd, 2006 11:06 PM
From what I've read on numerous forums, written by LEO's about some LEO's, its a wonder that they hit at all.. Lack of practice, poor maintance, or poor training. (static, no movement, shooting like they are in a bullseye match) I agree with you. You need to train like you may have to fight.
As far as shooting a wheelie better, go for it. But think about carrying a BUG just in case 5 or 6 don't do the trick...
Take care, CraigJS
July 22nd, 2006 11:34 PM
From what I read and hear---most gun fights occur with less than five rounds fired by each party. No stats to back that up---but I have heard it various times by various sources. By that alone, if you should best with a six shooter than stick with it for CCW. Semi autos offer higher capacity, ease of mag swap, slim design, and quicker follow up shots with rapid fire platforms....but if you are not comfortable with them none of that is any good. Bottom line is you want to be confident with your weapon and feel that it is truely an extention of your body.
"Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it."
July 23rd, 2006 04:01 AM
Absolutely pick what you're comfortable with. But, I would recommend selecting based on the whole package: what you shoot well; what you are familiar handling safely; what you can reload quickly; what you can bring to bear effectively; what has sufficient capacity given your lifestyle. Everyone has the right "mix" that is most comfortable. For me, I can tolerate the slower reloads of a revolver that I'm completely accurate and safe using. On the other hand, if greater firepower is needed (situation), I'm much more comfortable carrying the 9mm. YMMV.
My shooting accuracy with a revolver is amazing compared to a semi automatic... Which begs the question, if my accuracy is that
much better with the revolver, and my point shooting is even better with a revolver compared to the semi, would that be my logical choice for ccw be a revolver?
July 23rd, 2006 04:02 AM
Just don't tell Mr. Miculek that!
Originally Posted by WJP9
If you stand up and be counted, from time to time you may get yourself knocked down. But remember this: A man flattened by an opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity stays down for good. ~ Thomas J. Watson, Jr.
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