Wanna Buy a Gun - On the Terrorist Watch List - NO PROBLEMO
This is a discussion on Wanna Buy a Gun - On the Terrorist Watch List - NO PROBLEMO within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by MitchellCT
If the government wants to stop people from availing themselves of a right, they can do so easily.
File criminal charges, ...
April 28th, 2011 03:51 PM
Originally Posted by MitchellCT
April 28th, 2011 04:31 PM
If you want to deny me my second amendment rights, charge me with a crime, put me in court, and try me with a fair trial... and convict me. Do not steal my rights without due process of law.
This is America - not China. Or? Seems it's getting more difficult to tell the difference.
April 28th, 2011 04:36 PM
lord hamster said:
"If the same idiots are running this list, I wouldn't worry too much about those folks who "slipped by".
Good point. Given the make-up and suspicious backgrounds of these people who likely made up the list, many of the folks flagged as "terrorists" might be patriotic Americans who go to church and believe in The Bill of Rights. Seriously. After all, isn't this the same government that doesn't seem very serious about securing the border or calling the threats to this nation by their rightful names?
The first rule of self-defense is to avoid the situation. The second rule is Train and Prepare.
April 28th, 2011 05:08 PM
Me thinks a firearm is not the weapon we need to worry about the terrorist obtaining, and probably just as important, keeping them out of the country in the first place.
Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast.
April 29th, 2011 06:42 AM
The Patriot Act, No Fly list, and the Terrorist Watch list.
More AMERICAN CITIZENS have been prosecuted, persecuted, and rights revoked under these than all other nationalities combined.
Huston...we have a problem.
The only difference here between Germany in the 1930's and us in the here and now is that there is no racial or religious flavor to it [yet].
Methinks there are too many three letter Govt. agencies with too much power and no oversight to keep them in check. We are starting to get our own versions of the KGB and Gestapo running amok inside our own borders.
Grasseater // Grass~eat~er noun, often attributive \ˈgras-ē-tər\
A person who is incapable of independent thought; a person who is herd animal-like in behavior; one who cannot distinguish between right and wrong; a foolish person.
See also Sheep
April 29th, 2011 08:10 AM
I think you are correct; however I see both racial and religious profiling and think the created fear of race and religion is the controlling factor, if you make people scared enough they will hand over thier rights... even here.
Originally Posted by Sticks
April 29th, 2011 08:34 AM
You haven't heard?? There IS a 4 year old terrorist problem. Call themselves the '4-Ks'. Absolutely evil. They torture people by pinning them down by sheer numbers and shoving crayons up their noses. They tag the walls in every school/home they have access to.... Their crimes are too numerous to list them all, but they only get worse as you go down the list.
Originally Posted by Kerby
"Gun control should mean hitting your target every time."
Please try to remember- I have a very dry sense of humor. It usually sounds mean, but isn't meant to be.
April 29th, 2011 09:53 AM
I have yet to see any convictions reported based on the fact the BG bought a gun, was on a watch list, and LE tracked him and his buddies and found them doing bad things.
Lautenberg is a fool...and deserves to be on a watch list...
- know the difference
is a fancy name for crappy fighter
You have never lived until you have almost died. For those that have fought for it, life has a special flavor the protected will never know
April 29th, 2011 11:01 AM
I think these politicians like Lautenberg say things like this, so when it comes time for re-election, he can say he's tough on terrorism.
Don't believe what you hear and only half of what you see!
April 29th, 2011 02:38 PM
It lasted for about one year. Which was a giant pain because I'm an IT consultant and during that year (2007) I was flying ALL the time. Basically, every time I wanted to fly, I could not get my boarding pass. Then the checkin staff would have to call some magical number (almost like an NCIS check). They would tell them my name, my date of birth, then all of a sudden I was cleared again.
Originally Posted by Hopyard
No clue what that was all about. I have the most German sounding name in the world... very very common as well. Funny thing is while I was delayed from boarding a plane every single friggin' time, my gun buying checks and CCW permit all went through without a hitch.
Since about 2009, I've had no more problems. Logged over 200,000miles since then.
April 29th, 2011 04:49 PM
From the article "The watch list is secret and generated at the government's discretion. It is not a list of people convicted of terrorism crimes."
Orwell, 1984, Animal Farm - what other cliches come to mind???
This idiotic "terrorist watch list" is the kind of stuff that US politicians accuse dictators of doing.
April 29th, 2011 05:27 PM
Being put on a government watchlist is easy; just register and post on any internet forum where terms like "Second Amendment", "semiauto rifles", or "tight groups" are thrown around.
April 29th, 2011 07:34 PM
"One of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the great struggle for independence." --American historian Charles A. Beard (1874-1948)
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