Almost had a bad day at the range with my Gen 4 Glock 19

Almost had a bad day at the range with my Gen 4 Glock 19

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    Almost had a bad day at the range with my Gen 4 Glock 19

    I went to the range this morning to shoot my new Glock 19 gen4. I first shot 50 rounds of Federal American Eagle 124gr without a hitch as well as some Speer gold dots in 124gr +P and 147gr. Then I got to the 115 gr Winchester White box in the 100 round packs that can be bought at walmart. I started to go through the first box without an issue. As I was getting ready to shoot the last few rounds from that box I found this....

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    Luckily I noticed that there was a problem with the round before I loaded it into the magazine. Just to be safe I decided not to shoot the remaining ammo in that box and moved on to the next box.

    While shooting the second box of 115 gr WWB I experienced 2 FTEs. The first one was certainly user error as I decided to shoot my glock left handed which is off hand for me, and I was noticing a substantial difference between the grip of my off hand and strong hand, so I was obviously limp wristing. The second FTE was a bit of a mystery, as it occured at the end of my shooting session I'm not sure if that one was operator error or if it was caused by the gun. My had was starting to get tired so it may have been but I cannot be 100% certain what caused it.

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    Let us know what kind of response you get from Winchester.

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    Thanks for the reminder. I'm bad about not checking every round at the range, and I shoot mostly WWB.
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    i dont trust the WWB or wolf steel.

    i reload and get that occassionally. less than 1 per 1000. excluding 32-20, 9mm is the most commen.
    if i bother to take it apart, when the brass mouth is measured it is on the thin side of bearly acceptable.

    i may be talking with someone but my eyes are focused on what my hands are doing.
    between feeling the rounds and looking at them--murphy is best kept at bay.
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    I put many 1000's of WWB rounds through the G26 and the XD9,never missed a beat. One of the few things I was taught as a kid,and maybe it helps,I hold on to any gun I shoot.I mean I grip it like I want to crush it.Some people say a loose grip can cause problems.
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    Your gun is like your mouth. It is prudent to pay attention to what you put in it.
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    Judging from the pictures of the bullets, I don't think you would have a safety issue with the gun. What you would have had would have been FTF problems as the cases hung up going into the chamber.
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    Admittedly, I don't practice a lot anymore so I can justify the cost of top shelf ammo of which I cheery pick and inspect.
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    For the outrageous prices they charge, there's no excuse for poor Q.C. How are we supposed to trust 'em?

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    I ran in to one just like that, on my last class trip.

    I do a quick visual as I'm loading (I'm either topping-off with my UpLula or feeding by hand, if I'm downloading for specific drills), and caught one just like that.

    I've shot perhaps 15,000 rounds of WWB 9x19 in the last 9 months. This was my first obviously defective.

    My FTFire rate on WWB is somewhere *well* south of 1%. Realistically, it's somewhere probably between 0.3 to 0.5%, but I cannot really make a good documentation, as a part of my training over the last 4 months involved extensive induced malfunction drills. FTFeed is virtually nil.

    I would expect all of my premium SD/HD ammo to be without any kind of blemishes, and always feed and fire perfectly. So far, from what I've experienced (of virtually every recommended cartridge of Dr. Roberts's list, but predominately Speer and Federal's premium rounds) have fulfilled that expectation.

    Range fodder is range fodder.

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    Looks like several rounds slipped by Winchester's QC. I would hope they would apologize and send you several boxes with their compliments.

    I've always looked at it as I AM the final QC before my daughter or wife pull the trigger.
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    Good reminder to be mindful of what you are doing.
    Don"t let stupid be your skill set....

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