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I am having issues with my Walther PPS. I called Smith and Wesson and they sent me a pre-paid FedEx label to ship it back to them. Here are some of the instructions.
I called the local Kinkos/FedEx just to verify. The guy said that for <blah><blah><blah> reason, I have to take it to the World Service Center which is substantially further away. Fiiiiiiiiiiiine. I go to the local Kinkos to get a box and again ask, this time to the manager. He says that he can accept the package under certain circumstances.Firearms may not be shipped at FedEx Office, KINKOS or FedEx Drop Boxes
FedEx requires that you verbally inform the receiving FedEx employee that a package contains a firearm.
- It is going to an FFL or the manufacturer
- It ain’t not loaded
OK, so I take the box home, pack it up and the next day, bring it back, unsealed, just in case they want to check it. I am speaking with the clerk.
Me: I wish to ship this package.
Clerk: No problem. I can handle that for you.
Me: Well, you should know it is a firearm.
Clerk: Oh. Let me check. (Speaks with a manager type and comes back). I have a few questions. Is it going to an FFL?
Me: Actually the manufacture for warranty repair.
Clerk: Well, I guess that is ok. Is it loaded?
Me: (The smart a** in me is thinking, of course it is. It has a full mag of HD ammo and one in the chamber just to test out the firing pin disengagement mechanism but I say) Of course not. Would you like to check?
Clerk: No, that is OK
So I seal it up and hand him the package. The guy next to me says, “Is that a Ruger needing a trigger recall?” He had a Ruger SR9 that he needed to ship back. We get into an interesting conversation and a few other people chime in. I was wondering if any of them were carrying.
Package was sent off and hopefully S&W can fix my issues and I get it back quickly.
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The counter person at my local FedEx asked me if the handgun was disassembled when I turned it over for shipping back to Springfield Armory. That's neither a legal requirement nor a FedEx requirement for shipping. I gave a misleading answer short of an outright lie, and let the shipment proceed rather than making a fuss and getting a manager involved. I just love it when people make up the rules as they go.
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The next time I ship a firearm via FedEx I'm not telling them. I will break it down and if they ask what it is I will tell them "it's machine parts". I'm not paying the extra money ever again.
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Asking if the gun is unloaded is probably a wise precaution. We all know how stupid some folks get; it's perfectly reasonable to assume that some idiot would try to ship one hot and ready to rock.
Good on you for your patience. Most of the customer service stupidity I encounter is with the airlines.
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Is it me, or is this one of those areas where a more reasonable stance and legislative wording would make sense for locations like the Post Office as opposed to this zero tolerance - zero sense lunacy we have today? I am thinking here, an unloaded firearm which has been properly packed for shipping.
NEVER ship a gun loaded!
If ever a shipper tells you what they CAN'T do, escalate to the corporate office. You will eventually get the right answer if you climb high enough. FedEx will always allow a firearm to be shipped to MFG or FFL as long as it is unloaded.
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That is interesting because the Fed Ex place nearby to where I live has a sign posted on the inside wall as you walk through the door that says :
"No firearms are allowed in this building. You will be searched."
I guess they don't want the business of shipping a firearm or those who are willing to carry one.
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I ran into a similar dilemma yesterday when shipping back my Taurus. Their website said I could use any standard carrier to ship back to MFG. However, I've always had it drilled into my head that it is a felony to bring any type of firearm into a post office. So just to be on the safe side I shipped it UPS. Well, the UPS store has a big sign showing all of the things they don't allow for shipment. But as I know UPS will in fact ship firearms, I figured the best way to handle it was just not to tell them what was in the box. It was probably more a rule of the "UPS Store" than it was UPS in general.
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Last time I shipped a gun, it was in the factory case, which was obviously a gun case if you'd ever seen one. Zero problems shipping from an Office Max FedEx location.
... on the other hand, one time I was trying to ship a sheath knife I'd sold, and after picking out packaging in the UPS Store (getting the stinkeye from the clerk the whole time), I packed it up and brought it to the desk, where the clerk proceeded to interrogate me regarding what I was shipping. When I told him it was a knife, he insisted that it was against UPS policy to mail a weapon. When I pointed out that it was not, in fact, a weapon, and that I had shipped handguns, which actually ARE weapons (Both according to MN law, anyway) via UPS, he refused to ship my package.
I complained to UPS headquarters after reviewing their shipping policies and finding no such policy forbidding the mailing of knives, and was told that UPS Stores were essentially franchises, and they couldn't/wouldn't do anything about it.
Note to self: The only way to win is not to play.
I'm in the process of shipping a 1911 frame out for trigger work,apparently FFL's can ship handguns thru the USPS to another FFL,I'm gonna contact my FFL friend and have him do it.
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