Kimber Desert Warrior (barrel Rust?)

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    Kimber Desert Warrior (barrel Rust?)

    I am new to this forum so I hope I am posting this question in the right place.

    I have a problem with my Kimber Desert Warrior. Many months ago the gun got wet and I did not know about it (a pipe broke downstairs while I was away.) The barrel had rusted and kimber was kind enough to do something with it, don't know exactly what they did, but when they sent it back to me the rust was gone. They send it back with a stern note telling me not to bother them with this again.

    After I got it back I was careful with it. Kept it in dry conditions, oiled, etc. Neverthelelss, it has developed some kind of darker half ring close to the end of the barrel. I did a web site search and it looks like some people have complained about the barrels on these guns rusting for no reason. I find it hard to believe. I have had many guns before and this has never happened to me. I keep all my guns, including this one, reasonably clean and oiled.

    I spent a couple of hours working on that spot with gun oil, a bore brush and fine steel wool. It has almost disappeared but I cannot stop thinking that this could happen again.

    Do you guys know where I can send this barrel to have it refinished, coated or something so this doesn't happen again? Any idea of the cost? I really like this gun, but the barrel seems oversensitive to rust IMO...

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    Look into places that do Ionbond, there was a thread here a while a back that a guy posted with some refinished barrels...I'll try and find it. For the time being you can treat your barrel with Fltiz, Eezox or Renaissance Wax.

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    Is the "dark ring" you describe in the inside or the outside of the barrel?
    Are you sure it's from corrosion and not use?

    A simple hard chrome plating of the barrel should take care of any corrosion sensitivity. To give you an idea of cost, Robar out here in Phoenix charges $35 to do a barrel in hard chrome and $50 to do a high-tech NP3 or Rogard coating. If you ship just a barrel, there's no major expense involved.

    If you're in central CT, you might call or drop by JoJo's Gun Works in Southington. They're quite knowledgeable about 1911s and can advise you well.
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    I don't think hard chrome will be applied inside the barrel, if a Kimber barrel does show to be prone to reoccurring rust issues, you'll want the bore/rifling protected as well as the outside surfaces.

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    Well, it's possible to chrome plate the inside bore but, it's usually and typically not done.
    Chrome won't throw down into the bore of the barrel unless the barrel is specially jigged with an internal anode.
    Electro-less NICKEL would be a better option since it molecularly bonds and coats all of the metal internally and externally and that would rust proof the entire barrel.

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    the ring was outside the barrel, close to the point where the bullet exits. I can't say i am sure it was rust but it had to be something other than regular fouling because I had to rub it hard for a couple of hours to get almost get rid of it.

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    thanks. I like the suggestion but I went to the link and they do not recommend the treatment for barrels that have had a few hundred rounds through it, like mine )-:

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    sounds good. Does robar apply the finish to the outside and inside of the barrel or just the outside. The inside looks like glass, very nice (but I don't know if the outside has problems if this means the inside will also develop problems as well. it seems to me like the inside of the barrel has a different finish, harder, more resistant.)

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    If you're just worried bout minor rust starting again on bare steel then you could just buy a small bottle of OXPHO-BLUE from Brownell's.
    Cold blue the barrel with OXPHO-BLUE....then fine steel wool the barrel hard....repeat....do that a few times and then warm the barrel up a bit and wet it down with BreakFree CLP or WeaponShield and let it stay wet with either of those two overnight.

    That should keep it from ever rusting back up as long as you're doing routine maintenance on your firearm.

    You can do that at home for only a few bucks.

    If you're going to spend 50 or 75 dollars on having that factory barrel plated then you might as well just spend a few dollars more and buy an aftermarket Stainless steel drop in barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plinio View Post
    sounds good. Does robar apply the finish to the outside and inside of the barrel or just the outside. The inside looks like glass, very nice (but I don't know if the outside has problems if this means the inside will also develop problems as well. it seems to me like the inside of the barrel has a different finish, harder, more resistant.)
    Robar only does the outside of the barrel.

    Not sure about a different finish on the inside of most barrels; some (esp. military) are chrome plated for wear and corrosion resistance, but allowances are made during initial manufacture for the thickness of the chrome (i.e., plating after the fact takes special consideration and measurements). But sending jacketed and/or lead bullets down a bore using modern primers and powder is rarely an invitation to corrosion.

    Can you show us a picture of the dark ring on your barrel that's causing you consternation?
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    I spent a couple of hours working on that spot with gun oil, a bore brush and fine steel wool. It has almost disappeared so I can't photograph it. I just don't want it to could happen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Robar only does the outside of the barrel.

    Not sure about a different finish on the inside of most barrels; some (esp. military) are chrome plated for wear and corrosion resistance, but allowances are made during initial manufacture for the thickness of the chrome (i.e., plating after the fact takes special consideration and measurements). But sending jacketed and/or lead bullets down a bore using modern primers and powder is rarely an invitation to corrosion.

    Can you show us a picture of the dark ring on your barrel that's causing you consternation?
    Kimber uses carbon steel barrels on most of their guns, these barrels have not other finish applied, most rust cases with Kimber barrels occur on the carbon steel barrels near the muzzle end of the barrel, even after cleaning the corrosion the steel under the rust appears darker than the rest of the barrel.

    While I appreciate the benefits of the carbon steel barrel, I'd rather have a stainless steel barrel on a carry gun or have the carbon steel barrel treated to be less prone to corrosion. In some cases, the corrosion has been found in the bore, but it's more rare.

    I have a carbon steel barrel in on of my higher end guns with a hard chrome coating on the outside and I found a little spot of corrosion on the crown of the bore, that barrel is probably going to get removed, stripped of the chrome and treated with the black nitride process I posted above.

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    I have for years coated my Kimber Warrior and Custom II barrels with a thin layer of synthetic wheel bearing grease and have never experienced rust on either one.
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    do you know who makes an aftermarket drop in barrel for the Kimber DW?

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